Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

I have driven both and own both 918 and p1. (918 on the way)

Screw the articles, the p1 is the car I would want to drive on track or road 90% of the time.

918 for when the weather is nice.

And I really doubt the 918 could keep up with a well driven p1

 

When was the last time you drove 918? serious question in order to clarify your statement...
Best regards,

 

Not only that: But if he would drive the 918 "when the weather is nice", one assumes he'll certainly be driving it in 'not so nice weather' as well; thus the P1 wouldn't be used "90 % of the time" as far as I can see (taking what he said as true, in the first place)? Lol

And I know what you're getting at, regarding "full power", production spec, front motor improved vehicles" test vehicles being available.

 

Nope. I only suppose, he is SS's brother... hahaha

 

Haha, indeed!!

Good one!

It took me a a few seconds to decipher Steve Sutcliffe (I was asking myself, "who's SS", with him being so far out of my memory/credibility quotient now). Lol

I wonder, if both he and Chris Harris, will do a Mea Culpa on the 918 (especially in comparison to the P1)??....Probably, not. Lol

They don't appear to be admitting anytime soon, they were wrong, biased, or premature in their previous comments.

However, it does appears with many 918, fair minded, unbiased Hypercar fans; I would even dare say, Chris Harris and Steve Sutcliffe fans; they've lost some credibility???...I know they have with several here at least for starters.

 

I seriously doubt that they have to worry about losing any credibility CarMaven, especially here on FerrariChat, seeing that both Chris or Steve could run rings around any Evo test driver, which instantly negates any outcome or opinion from that mag report. I'll always believe more what a guy says who can drive a car fast over a guy who thinks he can drive a car fast. Testicles do not all come in the same size...

 

Will they continue to tweak the technologies in these cars as they get further in the production runs?

 

I drove it in march, hot lap mode on track. It felt faster than a veyron. P1 Feels just as fast but more exciting.

Let me rephrase that since you seem to have a comprehension issue. Whenever i have time to drive id pick the p1 90% of the time. Good weather or bad.

You can argue about what reviewers think for as long as you want.

As an end user I'm simply sharing my preferences. P1 is the better more exciting drivers car for me and for many others who have driven both.

 

In March there we no full power cars, as far as I remember... most likely 600-700hp.

 

And what about the LaFerrari ?

 

Cars were delivered to customers in march I don't know where your coming up with this nonsense. I'm telling you the car I drove felt like it had 1000 hp in hot lap mode.

The lf to me is like that supermodel you want to bang, u know she's gonna be better than the rest you just haven't tried her yet.

 

Sorry, mate, but I never speak nonsense.

Feb/March 2014 was the exact time, when the last delay in production was announced.
You have seen factory cars on the road, not customer ones...
Actual start of production in Zuffenhausen was the last days of March/beginning of April. two weeks to produce a single car at minimum...

I agree with you on the Hot Lap conclusion...
Cheers,

 

You're right.

It's Steve Sutcliffe reincarnated (judging by previous comments). Lol

 

Ok james may, next time I buy a car it will definitely be based on your recommendation. lol

 

I have no problem with you preferring whichever car you choose (regardless of whether the car you drove was proper, and/or any perceived bias, etc.). No problem with that. Not at all.

SS and Chris Harris, made untrue statements at the seat of their pants. They both said the P1 was much faster, and this has been proven to be horrifically untrue. That's a fact (until any additional info comes out to disprove this). It is not. A fact proven by numerous sources (Top Gear, Autocar, Sports Auto, EVO?, etc.).

Even your statement "I really doubt the 918 could keep up with a well driven p1", appears very SS like (hence the comparison), and subject to open ridicule. There's nothing in the public arena/data that proves or justifies that statement. None!

Haha comprehension, or writing skills? So you didn't say this below?


"I have driven both and own both 918 and p1. (918 on the way)

Screw the articles, the p1 is the car I would want to drive on track or road 90% of the time.

918 FOR WHEN THE WEATHER IS NICE.

And I really doubt the 918 could keep up with a well driven p1"


Those were your words, not mine.

You said you'd want to drive the P1 90% of the time (doesn't mean you can or will--for various reasons, or change your mind--for particular reasons). And you said, you'd drive the 918 when the weather is nice (Question: How many nice weather days where you are), presumably for the open top ability of the 918. Right? So when the weather was bad (especially, if traveling a decent distance), you'd drive the 900 HP RWD, skittish, no glove compartment P1? Get it. Get where I'm going with this?.......

Just let it go, and don't dig yourself any deeper. It's not that serious. Was just having fun at your expense, own comments with Boyko23. SMH No biggie!

Enjoy your vehicle/s!

 

I can see how people who drove the P1 prefer it over the 918, assuming we share the same reason.

I myself drove a fully production 918 w/p (my cousin car) well as I'm so happy for him owning such a beautiful car, I have to admit the moment I went back and drove my P1, I said to myself I really made the right choice + a big smile

I was offered few 918 combinations by Porsche dealer since me and the owner long time friends I liked one configuration and kept it pending, because I'm looking for something else right now.

Now faster or magazine talks is beyond my linking and i had enough of been fast.

and weather thing is nonsense to me I drove fully tuned cars ranging from 890rwhp to 1200rwhp+ all with 1200+ rwtq with no traction control what so ever no problem if you not a fool or just a crazy non responsible driver.

If someone like an open top a daily fast car he may be more comfortable with a 918 but for pure racing personality and aggressiveness I'm sure the P1 will be more than you wish for.

Personally I can't see any of the 3 hypercars been a bad choice, i personally put the 918 on my list but as a third car until I close my current purchase.

Mbn

 

That is truly amazing. Just because you want an open top car for when the weather is nice, you choose a 918. Thats something like chosing a LaFerrari because you have to get from A to B somehow.

Not making fun of you in any way.

 

The problem with the LaFerrari is that the current owners and the newest owners are secretly nervous...they are the guinea pigs of the hypercar sergment and tend to sweat profusely when they apply heavy doses of throttle and brake. They will obviously refute this unmanly state of mind.

 

Take a chill pill dude. All i said was that i prefer the p1 to the 918. No need to over analyse a figure of speech.

I actually chose the 918 because in the magazines it has the best c02 emisions of the lot. Not to drive the car or enjoy it in any way. I have more fun having it parked in the garage and discussing c02 emissions with you over the internet.

 

But that's his singular purpose for having a FerrariChat account, as evidenced by the fact that he has only posted in this thread and every single one of those posts has been largely similar in promoting or defending the 918. He exemplifies the term shill in comical fashion.

>8^)
ER

 

Isn't that what I was essentially saying to you ("take a chill pill dude")? Lol

OK. You were the one that fired off no reading comprehension skills, though you were clear in saying 'The 918 for nice weather (and other things)". Not me.

So when I had fun with your statement with Boyko23, now it's "analysis of a figure of speech". Ok/Lol

As I said no, biggie. And enjoy your vehicles.

Nuff said.

 

There will be people who will choose each particular vehicle (both before and after a drive) for one big, several, or multiplicity of reasons.

900+ will chose the 918. 375 will choose the P1. And 450 will choose the LaFerrari, when all delivered. That's not what was being argued.

Some one in the thread asked earlier (regarding the Evo Test), which car was faster in their testing/track times, etc.. And others were questioning Chris Harris, and Steve Sutcliffe's P1 speed statements (from both sides), due to other, similar seat of the pants assertions.

Either way, it all comes down to speed. Not that speed is the sole reason to choose these cars. Obviously not. However, it is uncanny, that before the P1 was released, it was all about speed and being the fastest (possibly of all time we heard). Some still say and believe this. And now that the test are in, it's speed-track time boast are a distant memory. All of a sudden it's based on "feel", "perception" after one or two test drives, or briefly owning the car. Now, speed, acceleration, handling, track times, and braking (mind you other facets), have been seemingly pushed to the side, out of the discussion forever.

No one is discounting someones personal feelings (such as the EVO reviewers or yourself MBN). That's par for the course, to be expected. Two different arguments, vantage points.

 

I have a feeling he sleeps in Porsche pj's

 

The only timed tests of both cars(p1, 918) ive seen clearly has the p1 as the winner. Those are quarter mile straight line tests by magazines. No comparative track times have been posted yet.

 

Oh yeah?

Please share with us which test (This feels like a time warp)??

Thanks/much appreciated.