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  1. VividRacing

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    #376 VividRacing, Aug 29, 2014
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    The 360 Headers are made in the USA, The issue is that they stated the 430 headers were made the USA when they were not as other members have stated..

    The AP headers for the F430 are not made in house as the 360's are.. I am sorry to hear about the issue you had with the 360 headers and Agency Power already taken care of the issue with your header as I have been told.. if not please let me know..

    With my experience in items made oversea's if you pay them for good quality you the product will match it. If you cut corners to try to save on costs then thats when it lead to the Ebay cheap crap thats flooding the consumer market out there..

    Here is a set of F430 AP Headers I just shipped to a Fchat member. We do get them from oversea's and never had any issues with install or fitment..

    (These are Ceramic Coated in Polish) These do not discolor as I have the same coating on my Turbo'd car and have had for over 10k miles and have done several trips to socal and back..
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  2. Russell996

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    Forgive my previous ignorance - do I understand correctly from your website that VividRacing own Agency Power?
     
  3. VividRacing

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    Its 2 separate companies run by different management different point of sale systems but owned by the same owners.
     
  4. MPtolomey

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    These pictures illustrate a huge difference between the AP and FS headers... Hmmm.... Now I just need a deal on the FS!
     
  5. Russell996

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    OK, so if we discuss just F430 headers, then are the Agency Power and Fabspeed headers both made by Jim and identical to each other as has been said many times in this thread?
     
  6. SCKOMS

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    I believe the AP 430 headers in the photos are the ones I received last week. I havent even had a chance to unpack them but when I do I will take some photos both inside the tubes and outside.
    Does anyone have photos of recently acquired FS headers?
    My understanding is they are very similar if not identical. Based on that I went with AP as the price difference was substantial.
     
  7. DrDon

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    My FS headers look the the "stainless" ones in NetMan's post. I'm going by the welds.
     
  8. AceMaster

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    Does the iPhone have a stamp on it that reads "Made in Asia", while the packaging box that it comes in reads "Made in USA"? Can you show me where Apple claims that the iPhone is made in the USA?

    You should re-read this thread. The issue that is being debated is not the quality (or lack therof) of the product in question.
     
  9. JoeZaff

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    Not that I have an interest in wading further into this debate, but just for the sake of accuracy. My iPhone 5s box, which I am looking at right now, says "designed by apple in California...assembled in China..."
     
  10. AceMaster

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    Excellent. My point exactly. ;)
     
  11. RichardCH

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    Yes indeed lets stick to the facts here
     
  12. AceMaster

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    He is.
     
  13. dm_n_stuff

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    I would like that as well.

    We've heard it's on the box, but we have not seen a recent post of their product packaging.

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  14. GaryR

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    It's on my box, little USA flag, but mine is for a 360... :D
     
  15. netman

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  16. GaryR

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    Looks just like mine, whoda thunk it? :D
     
  17. rob lay

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    Aren't the 360 headers made in USA? Where is recent box from 430 headers?
     
  18. Russell996

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    Can we assume since you have asked this question a couple of times now that Fabspeed have confirmed to you that the Fabspeed F430 header box doesn't come with a 'made in the USA sticker'?
     
  19. rob lay

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    I honestly don't know, it has been the underlying rally call through the thread from the Fabspeed haters, so I can't believe they would have been sitting on wet powder this entire time.

    We know the 360 headers box has said "Made in USA" at some point and/or now, but we also know the 360 headers have actually been Make in USA at some point and/or now while the 430 headers have most components imported.
     
  20. Russell996

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    Rob, I don't believe any of us are Fabspeed haters, they have a great reputation with the vast majority of people and they have deservedly earned this with their products and service. There simply seems to be overwhelming evidence that one product is made by a manufacturing partner in Taiwan and as an FChat sponsor I guess quite a few of us thought they would simply say what is what once it became known. Why not, they clearly believe in the product!
     
  21. rob lay

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    I think this might be the most proof why there actually are "some" haters (trolls). What is the cliché, let the product speak for itself? Fabspeed has been quiet and they have also written long posts in this thread. They have invited everyone for a personal tour. From admin standpoint I'm not crazy how Fabspeed handled everything, but they did what they did. Still not sure what they did wrong, but at same time not sure what haters did wrong.

    430 Headers "Made in USA" box? If so, that's a hit against Fabspeed. If pics posted were all for 360 Header boxes, then anyone that used this as attack against Fabspeed would be wrong.

    Fabspeed headers just like AP? If so, Fabspeed hasn't done anything wrong, but I guess AP less expensive. Seems like we've concluded that they aren't exactly the same? In that case, people claiming they are the same would be wrong.

    Fabspeed employee saying 430 headers Made in USA? If that was their exact words in this thread, then that was their mistake. If they said designed or assembled in USA, I guess that's OK. If they were talking about 360 headers, I guess that would be OK since they are and/or were made in USA.

    In the end I just saw this as more of a witch hunt against Fabspeed since post #1. It didn't matter what was said or wasn't, it was always going to be trolled against Fabspeed. I talked to several exhaust companies offline and Fabspeed hasn't been doing anything different than the others, they also have no obligation to tell everyone all their business practices (suppliers).

    Fabspeed's product can speak for itself. You like it or you don't. If not sure, research both sides.
     
  22. Tally Ho

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    I have F430 Fabspeed headers and their sports exhaust and exit pipes. The boxes have Made in USA stickers on them. I guess you could play semantics either way. Were the materials made in the US or were they just designed and assembled in the US using outsourced materials? I personally don't care either way. They sell a great product at a competitive price. I have no complaints. Evan gave me a great deal and I'm confident if I have any warranty related issues, Fabspeed will stand behind their products.

    My Corvette is considered "Made in the USA" yet I see parts from Australia, Canada, Mexico, Germany, and who knows where else throughout the car. My$.02
     
  23. GaryR

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  24. JoeZaff

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    FWIW, the window sticker on a Corvette I would imagine clearly states that the car is assembled in the USA and then lists it's percentage of foreign vs. domestic content. I recall the last corvette being something like 75% domestic content, but I could be off.

    Just wanted to clarify.
     
  25. Piper

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    More like Weekend At Bernies now.
     

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