Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

SO until now NOBODY tried P1 918 and LaFerrari together ?

 

You said that you have driven both, and 'doubt the 918 could keep up with P1', which is matter of fact wrong...and he called you out for it. no 'over analyze figure of speech' going on here.

 

'that I've seen'. Obviously, you need to see more.

 

driftwith brought it on himself, and then comes back with 'no need to over analyze' my foot in mouth statements. as for Maven's Fchat habits, you should be one to speak right? after all, are an ultimate authority. err, yeah. Come on now. It's not like he's on here making outlandish statements/claims.

 

The test where you say the 918 was not on full power, where they set the production car record in the 1/4 mile in a validation prototype p1 (production p1s are faster by the way)

So facts are facts. According to data, The p1 is faster, has a bigger boot and has three cupholders.

Cmon man, Three cupholders. Its definitely the better car

 

Drift,
A lot of times are coming. Some even by the end of this week. Unfortunately you won't like them. So better to talk about feelings again... This is the only thing left for the people in Woking... Mainly bad ones, but nevertheles... feelings.

 

Please lend me your glasses and a copy of evo, i might read the article through your eyes and get lost in the ocean of contemplation.

 

Oh trust me a lot of results will pop up. Not all will be in favour of the 918. Since your the biased one here i would be more concerned about your feelings. Right now the P1 is faster with data to prove. Deal with it.

 

shouldn't you be out driving your P1 instead of making 'friends' this way on Fchat? And where is this 'data' to prove it? that one 'test' MT did? What about Autocar, Top Gear, AMS, Car and Driver? All of which shine a much brighter light on the Porsche. Right now 918 is faster with data to prove it. Haha.

For the Porker, 0-60 in 2.2, 1/4 in 9.8. Not bad. Not to mention outlapping P1 in the h2h matchups. Seriously think you've got nothing better to do so you decided to come on here to 'ruffle a few feathers'. Eeeesh. But lucky you, you own both.

 

funny. better yet, go out and drive your cars, then contemplate. 10 posts, so buffoonish. eeesh.

 

As far as mag tests I really stopped reading magazines reviews long time ago, not because I don't believe them it's just I got my own experience and liking.

I bought many cars some won mag test some didn't but to me they won my liking.

As I said before buying any of the 3 is not a bad choice at all, I just can't force what I like nor I can argue and argue about it.

I believe in using this forum or any fourm to create a good healthy friendly atmosphere, if someone like something I won't talk crap and simply and honestly i will respect his liking and move on.

We all different and we like different cars, cloths, phones, foods..etc

Mbn

 

I can't wait to have as many posts as you. Maybe by then I'll have enough pcar fanboy friends to throw a pcar pyjama party and maybe convince me the 918 is better.

I doubt though ,I'd probably still prefer the p1.

 

Sorry, drift,
but you have too little knowledge about the characteristics of "yours" two cars... That is definitely strange...

 

According to motortrend and r&t I do, but then again your first on my list for the pyjama party

 

two seats and three cupholders?

well....

 

because mclaren

 

OK, so you have nothing. Just like I thought.

FWIW: Every legitimate test, H2H, innuendo, insider talk etc., has the 918 faster in short intermediate, and long distance over the P1. This includes track times as well (though none have been officially published). You're digging yourself deeper.

There has been only one legitimate testing of the P1 (at this moment) where it's times were published. That was the Autocar article. And that one didn't paint the P1 in the best light. If I remember correctly, neither it's factory 1/4 mile, or high speed run times were reproduced. As a matter of fact, it's 0-186 mph (which McLaren claimed in the 16 sec range) was a unimpressive, disappointing 22 secs.

Not surprisingly, after this we mysteriously haven't heard any more 1/4 mile, high speed or track times from the P1 with magazines.

Motor Trend did a test of the P1 earlier, with a 9.8 1/4 mile result. However that wasn't a legitimate test (No two way/multiple runs to account for wind, surface, along with other testing, etc.). That's all they did. There were no other testing.

Now, at least three magazines have tested/listed their 918 times (in legitimate test). This includes Motor Trend, Sports Auto, Road and Track to name a few. In all these test, the 918 has run 0-60 in 2.4-2.6 (road and track, actually got a 2.2 sec). It's 1/4 mile has been a tight 9.8-10.0, and it's high speed runs 180mph or above at 17.5 secs (absolutely blitzing the Autocar P1 high speed numbers). Sports Auto's sister publication, Motor Und Sport, performed a battery of test speed and handling test of the 918, along with a Ring Run.

In the TOP Gear H2H (which was done on the same day, track and driver by the way), the 918 beat the P1 in practically every speed, acceleration, handling and braking test they published. Unfortunately, at this point Top Gear (such as EVO) has not released their track times. Insider talks say, the 918 bested the P1 in this areas as well. But we'll see?

Evo, claims to release track times in the future as well. But we'll see, don't know (though of course insider talk say, the 918 bested the P1 with them as well, such as Top Gear)? Nonetheless, even Evo had to mention, the P1 wasn't faster than the 918 anywhere on their track, at any speed in their most recent article. My question: Do you think if the P1 would have bested the 918 track, and other times, these English Mags would hold onto, not publish them (especially after their initial fawning and premature claims the P1)????

So up until now, the P1 has only performed in two Magazine test, where they were published times (Autocar and TG). The 918, at least 4 (TG, Road & Track, Motor Trend, Sports Auto/Motor Und Sport). And in everyone of those test, the 918 has performed in a tight range as predicted or better than Porsche own claims, unlike the P1. We need new, more published test from the Woking Wonder. Unfortunately, I don't think we're going to see it.

Hope that helps?

 

You seem to know a lot of insiders.

With regards to magazine tests like I said there will be many in favour of either cars.

As for the future, the woking wonder has a way more "adjustable" platform. Im on the 3rd software update on the p1 now. Turbos are a wonderful thing for easy hp , coupled with an infinitely adjustable suspension and aero package, I wouldn't be so sure of your statements.

918 has almost had all of its performance squeezed out of it.

You don't need insiders to tell you which is gonna be faster in the future. Just common sense

 

CarMaven, you are wound up waaay too tight. My money's on you snapping in a days. Take a break, get a tan, think of your health, live!

 

Haha.

Not at all (wound up tight).

It must be your own reading, interpretation?

Its' all fun, good (along with a few facts, historical anecdotes). Lol

Thanks though (smile).

 

what's a 'pyjama'? and 'probably'? you own the cars, well 918 on the way, but you should still have plenty of seat time in your P1. your posts are all over the place...very strange how you word things. it's not how many posts you have, but the contradictions in every step. you seem to not know very much about the cars you've purchased. red flags, blue flags. strange.

 

So...now it's about common sense of the 'future' and what's more 'upgradable'? Like the P1 GTR? and you seem sooooo sure that 918 has squeezed every drop. the goalposts keep moving with you P1 folks. wow.

 

If driftwithme owns both the P1 and 918 and prefers the P1 over the 918, what's the issue here? Whatever the magazines write, it does not matter and whatever some of you think, it does not matter as well. The best car is not what the auto journalist prefer but the car that owners of the LF, P1 or 918 have bought. They bought what they like and some are lucky enough to own all three or two of them. Congrats to these owners. I find it strange why some here are critical of his decision and even try to persuade him why the 918 is the better choice.

 

who's trying to persuade him? guess you missed it and still decided to drop bombs. Drift posted that he 'doubts the 918 can keep up with P1' and 'P1 is faster...deal with it' etc. him being incorrect about that is what's being 'discussed'.

 

well.. i think there are somethings that i need to show you:

#1-chris harris.. u can see he was blowing away by the P1 like never before and he says: i haven't driving a car like this before, because there isn't any car like this ..its a different league even to 918.
P1 Test~> [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb8tGX-HPQE[/ame]
918 Test~> [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szyUN5GlQ7c[/ame]

2-Auto car road tests.. just listen to the ending! ~> [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWmi7_LrjYY[/ame]
and in 6:05 he says: this thing is goes to another level blah blah and so much richer than spyder~> [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SGlN8xYZiw[/ame]

3-evo test.. he freaked out and wondering like never before! here are two examples: 6:10 its so far beyond anything i ever drived before. 7:00 he's shaking and say: i feel like its the first time i've ever driving a fast car and its the same feeling when i first drove a supercar! ~> [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ojSstEv7-k[/ame]

4- 918 vs P1 vs LaFerrari acceleration~> [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VryV2thfXI8[/ame] (i can show u one by one 0-300 test and its the same result)

5-2014 Goodwood Festival Of Speed.. P1 finished in 53 sec, Porsche in 66.
P1~> [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn1M_WPcG0Y[/ame]
918~> [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuXAAUv8UEQ[/ame]

6-0-300 times.. 16.5 for P1 and 20.9 for 918.

7-1/4 mile records.. 9.8 for p1 @ (152 mph) and 10.0 for 918 @ (145 mph). ~> http://fastestlaps.com/cars/mclaren_p1.html McLaren P1 lap times and specs - FastestLaps.com and http://fastestlaps.com/cars/porsche_918_spyder.html Porsche 918 Spyder lap times and specs - FastestLaps.com

8-Nurburgring times.. 6:57 for 918 and there's some strange times for P1. must says 6:47 and somewheres its 6:30! ~>
McLaren P1 'Has Beaten' Porsche's Nürburgring Lap Record By 10 Seconds
McLaren P1 sub-6:40 Nurburgring time tipped: Car News- CarsGuide
McLaren P1 Nurburgring lap time - PistonHeads
McLaren P1 May Have Lapped 'Ring In 6 minutes And 30+ Seconds

im just wanna make this battle clear for you and myself, so am i said anything wrong? what u think about that numbers??