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  1. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Personally, I agree with you. But we seem to be firmly in the minority if the poll is to be believed!..... Surprisingly, to me anyway, the majority want it left completely "open" & coaching permitted!

    Cheers,
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  2. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    The teams will revert to subtrafuge. Better to have it in the open.
     
  3. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Not going to be tolerated according to Charlie. From the Autosport article quoted in the other thread;

    Now, what I can see them doing is arranging for, eg, tire temps to be displayed on the wheel.

    Cheers,
    Ian
    FIA will not allow coded messages in F1 - AUTOSPORT
     
  4. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I have not heard of that, I like do like a nice piece of fudge tho, what flavour is it ;)
     
  5. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Thanks Ian pretty much what I was bleating on about in your thread.

    I will await the Sniff P version :)
     
  6. merstheman

    merstheman F1 Rookie

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    I would have no problem with this, except look at a modern F1 wheels and I bet you those guys can barely process any more information. Unless they start taking away some of those knobs & wheels.
     
  7. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Agreed!

    As I think Sammy said a while back, that they're able to drive as quickly as they do while BS'ing on the radio and tweaking knobs all the time is staggering!

    Wasn't it Kimi that admitted he crashed (his Lotus?) a while back because he was messing with the knobs rather than paying attention?!......

    Cheers,
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  8. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Obviously with nuts

    :)
     
  9. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    LOL yummy, it helps to have nuts on here..:)

    Fancy a game of marbles ?, apparently I have lost mine, so bring yours :D
     
  10. trumpet77

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    so now the FIA will have 22 "code-talkers" that will listen to each car/pit radio recording after the race or during? Will teams have to provide FIA a list of all their codes and names for things? If they don't catch it during a live radio transmission, will we have race results changing due to penalties the week AFTER a race?

    having good rules is one thing, but having unenforceable rules is different!
     
  11. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    Charlie will sort this and those who are caught will be warned initially I think, then next time the penalty will apply. If it changes a race result so be it. Other rules have changed race outcomes so what is the big problem with this. Other than its mid season or past and now its applied, yes, thats not ideal. Beyond that the teams have smart people and well paid drivers to work this out and simply race.
     
  12. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    That's exactly the plan - during the race. And if they hear anything they don't like they'll immediately pass it on to the stewards who will most likely issue a drive through according to the reports.

    Everything is already recorded & time stamped etc and they're saying it's 'zero tolerance'. But, they're also meeting in Singapore on Thursday to hash out the details.

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  13. 4rePhill

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    It's not that hard to stop any subterfuge from taking place - Simply inform the Teams that anyone caught using coded messages to circumvent the rules will be disqualified from the season and will face an F1 ban!

    Basically tell them: "If you can't abide by our rules then will not race in our series!"

    The trick is to make the penalty so harsh that it's simply not worth trying it!
     
  14. Jack-the-lad

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    "oo-yay eed-nay oo-tay it-pay ext-nay ap-lay. Ox-bay ext-nay ap-lay. Eez-play onfirm-cay."

    "Ewis-lay, Ico-nay is aster-fay an-thay oo-yay. Eez-play iv-gay (sorry) ay-way. Ank-thay oo-yay, Ewis-lay."

    "Leave me alone I know what to do!"
     
  15. VIZSLA

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    They shoot J-Walkers where you come from?
     
  16. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    :D damnit!

    But nah, hung, drawn & quartered!

    If they're *lucky*.....
    ;)

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  17. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Tough room.
     
  18. 4rePhill

    4rePhill F1 Veteran

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    All the information in those two sentences are not banned information anyway so why would a team bother putting that message out? :confused:

    And even if it did contain banned information, putting it like that is so unsubtle that it will instantly bring you under suspicion of breaching the rules (i.e. cheating!), and cause your team a massive headache having to explain what you meant, why it was put out that way, and probably result in even closer scrutiny of all your future radio transmissions.
     
  19. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    LOL Yeh and we chase kids with chainsaws, when they get on the lawn :)
     
  20. opencollector

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    What if teams _aren't_ sending covert messages but end up accused anyway? What can they do to establish their innocence? For any statement made over the radio there are an infinite number of possible alternate meanings.

    Enforcing this naively-conceived rule by a reign of terror is only going to make matters worse.
     
  21. VIZSLA

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    Now I know what haggis is stuffed with.
     
  22. kraftwerk

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    LOL and apparently they want to now keep it to themselves..;)
     
  23. VIZSLA

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    Aye.
    And their whiskey too!
     
  24. kraftwerk

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    I have my ways..:)

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