Official Ferrari LaFerrari Picture Thread

Thanks,do you think the pzero corsa are the right tires for the laf?

 

Apologies in advance but the constant bickering and bad use of sarcasm in this thread has made me confused to the point of not knowing exactly how serious posters are, so let me state what I think of that video, seriously, again:

I don't think it is wise at all to use a topical video made by an amateur cinematographer of a P1 overtaking a LaFerrari on track as conclusive evidence that one car is faster than the other when there is absolutely no information on context. Meaning we don't know speeds, drivers, tire conditions etc etc.

Until a fair comparison or race happens, with proper contextualization, I wouldn't draw any conclusions.

Fortunately for you it seems you will be able to conduct these comparisons yourself.

 

Interesting video with the Speciale and helps explain why the Fiorano lap times are as close as they apparently are.

 

All I saw was the La backing off all the time and not even trying...

 

Always fun to watch you "play"

 

On the straights I agree but then with an extra 400hp, it should do! The corners?

 

The LaF wasnt even trying

 

Even though Manuma was clearly fooling around, it was all over the Speciale's rear bumper in the corners.

 

Hmmm, yeah I'm confused by the comments too. The LaF driver had the inside line to the next right hander so all he had to do was just stay partially abreast the P1 "if" he wanted to play with him.

So either he wasn't interested, was experiencing a problem or he simply wasn't as aggressive as the P1 driver. There's no way the P1 could have overtaken the LaF on the outside of the next corner with equal drivers.

Nobody racing closely matched cars would want to have to overtake on the outside.

 

This video is from Ring Knutstorp. The car is the one with the "LAFIAT" license plate. The owner had taken delivery of the car the day before taking it on track! No wonder he isn't going to give it everything....

 

Great Video Manu!
Car looks very well balanced!

 

That is absolutely true MM. The problem that bugs me is that I know the owner of the white P1 and he has not yet taken delivery of this car. It's from Autoropa, the McLaren Stockholm dealership, and it is one of their sales personel, an older Swedish friend of mine, who is performing a pre-delivery shakedown test. I really doubt that he is pushing the P1 very hard before handing it over to the client next Saturday.

 

This P1 has been trotting around for quite some time though.

Notice in the video how early and hard the LaF brakes (hazard lights). It's only fair to assume the owner let off the throttle well before this to let the P1 glide past.

But I really can't believe how such a non-scientific video can cause a stir like this... Wellwell, fanboys always kling to straws.

 

These cars appeared at the recent Salon Prive (the first 3) and Hampton Court Concours of Elegance.

The first car (#203504) is owned by musician Jay Kay, of Jamiroquai fame.

The second (#201810) was displayed by London dealer, Joe Macari and the third, telaio unknown, by H R Owen, the official London dealer.

The fourth car (at Hampton Court) is owned by Matthew Munson. Telaio unknown.
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in the third to last photo, is that that F12 based custom one off I dont remember the name of right now ?

 

Yes it's the F12 TRS

 

LaFerrari and his competitor, the P1: https://www.facebook.com/giveitarevphotography/photos/a.174059919457075.1073741827.174055816124152/277629185766814/?type=1&theater

 

Yes, the TRS. I'll upload some photos to the Special Projects & Concept Cars thread later.

 

So you agree that neither car is being pushed anywhere near the limit?

 

I find it difficult to understand what you don't understand.

The P1 lightly taps the brakes going into the corner and then comes off them. The LaFerrari brakes on the straight, releases, brakes again with the P1 way ahead and just keeps braking.

A driver brakes when he thinks he needs to scrub off speed or to transfer weight. That an elderly salesman is flying past and through a corner with a car he is personally responsible for the safe delivery of into the hands of his client as opposed to a LaFerrari owner who is probabaly very aware of being passed by a P1 on a track, not the open road, says a lot about how much confidence each car delivers to its respective driver.

Then again, perhaps it was a Sunday afternoon drive and the LaFerrari driver had a lot on his mind. I'll give my feedback on both as soon as I can speak from experience.

 

The LaFerrari owner is also an "elderly man", who doesn't feel the need to drive like a boyracer on track with his LaF that he's had for one day. The video is not scientific in any way, all you are doing is speculating and attempting to provide it as some form of evidence or conclusion...

 

+1 it is ridiculous the interpretation that is being placed on this short clip. Everyone should wait for a proper controlled evaluation before drawing conclusions.

 

Absolutely right. It's owners enjoying their cars in their own way. In no way a scientific comparison worthy of any comment. The only comments that should be made about this clip are general comments of praise that these 2 owners are enjoying their cars in their natural habitat, i.e. on track. That is to be applauded and encouraged. Bravo to them equally.

 

Ok. ok, I give up, you guys win! Let's hail these two guys!

First, bravo to the P1 driver who has bigger huevos than the LaFerrari driver who has smaller huevos.

Next, congrats to both guys for driving cautiously on a race track, they're both great examples of how to drive with your brain and not your heart.

Lastly, I know a few guys who could pedal past these two push-overs...my how I hate lane hoggers, especially on roads with no speed limits.

But these guys are probably testing their brakes anyway...that P1 looks like it can't even stop if it had to!

 

203504-Jay Kay - Salon Privé + Goodwood FoS 2014
201810-Joe Macari - Salon Privé + Goodwood FoS 2014
204393-H.R.Owen - Salon Privé 2014
204745-Hampton Court(plate "43 MAT")