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Miura, the original supercar

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  1. joe sackey

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    #13051 joe sackey, Sep 18, 2014
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    3054 is a factory SV completed the 23rd of March 1972, the 710th Miura built.

    Originally supplied to Venezuela for Ramon Imery as the 38th car, it was originally Verde Miura/Nero.

    This is one of the cars that the factory agreed to take back & rebuild as an SV for the same Venezuelan client, using the P400's old chassis number!

    Here is Richard L enjoying the car today, and it lives with a range of Ferrari exotica including an F40. he had the car restored by Frank Triarsi's Classic Coach in the current muscle-car color "Plum Crazy" with grey interior.

    Of interest, this Miura once belonged to the CEO of Ferrari North America!
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  7. joe sackey

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    Ive seen no evidence that any Miura ever left Sant Agata with wire wheels...
     
  8. Olivier NAMECHE

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    If you allow me to comment, no question of evidence, all the Miura have been reported in their individual file holding Campagnolo wheel !
     
  9. joe sackey

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    Interesting, factory files did not record a lot of items, such color of the sills & wheels, so its important to have some 'evidence' from the period by way of corroboration.

    Therefore, I rely on period images quite heavily, for instance. Of the thousands of period images (from the production era) I have reviewed over the past 30-years, not once have I seen a Miura shod with wire wheels. That doesn't mean someone didn't drive a car down to a shop in Bologna and swap the Campys for wires - anything is possible!

    However, I remain confident that Bertone SpA did not supply production Miuras with wire wheels.

    As regards the 2 cars posted above by Andrewo, I happen to know both cars personally, and have first-hand information that the wire wheels were personal customization post-production.

    The red one is P400S 4488 and its current owner told me that these wires were fitted when the car was used for publicity images for the Ron O'Neal movie Super Fly TNT. The car was Lancia Blue at that time, he re-painted it red, but kept the wire wheels for shows.

    The black car is P400 3180, and its previous owner told me that removed the wires he installed before he sold the car. Both instances of post-production application as known to myself.
     
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    #13060 Kevin Rev'n, Sep 19, 2014
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    Here is a shot I grabbed of the one that Valentino Balboni restored. A client on Oahu purchased and had on display on 8/22. He had a really nice presentation that he did showing all the work that went into the restoration. Such an incredible car!
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    :) "I remain confident that Bertone SpA did not supply production Miuras with wire wheels"
     
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    TK contacted me and sent me a nice folio, what a guy, perhaps I'll see it soon when next I'm over there!
     
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    Did any Miura's leave the factory with colour matched sills like that black car, or is that another after market modification?
     
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    Isn't this where you car ended up, some nice company its being kept in
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    Ive seen images of new Miura P400 at the factory with black sills, but the car I am thinking of was Verde Miura.
     
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    Must say that I don't think the factory (at that time) ever delivered a car other than with silver or gold cills. The cars were delivered to Sant 'Agata ready painted by Bertone & the factory did not have the resources to change anything nor would Bertone do other than standard. It was a very different world to nowadays where anything goes. Of course the local importer could & frequently did, alter the cars to meet customer needs. (Such as re-trimming for UK cars). But that is surely different.
     
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    I agree with this and the car I saw in a period pic could easily have been back at the factory post-delivery for a service, having been changed by the dealer.
     
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    Yes. Like seeing a picture of your love in someone else's arms. A huge regret. I don't want to think about it.
     
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    #13070 johnhoughtaling, Sep 20, 2014
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    The moderators should probable move these posts to the Shah of Iran Muira thread as I dint want to screw up a great thread on the Italian Job Muira.

    But I have some really great stories in my many years of ownership of 4870. Many involved my single life. I recall once taking her out to impress a supermodel. I didn't mention anything about the car and she didn't ask. I drove 4870 on a road trip with her to my beach house on the coast in Florida about 5 hours away. It rained, and there was sand, and I really seconded guessed myself because sand, rain and a long road trip in a 100 point priceless car was going to cost another $100k to get it back together after the trip. At the end of the trip I could tell the car really impressed her and when she got out she said something that almost made me think it was worth it, she said "I really have to tell you this is a sexy car." I smiled. And then being completely serious she said, "I really appreciate old school Camaros."
     
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    LOL! I remember giving a cute blond a tour of the shop. There was a Rolls on one of the lifts. She remarked that she'd heard "Rolls Royce was the Cadillac of cars".
     
  22. RHS

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    Hi John,

    I really, really apologize about going off topic to everybody, just a quick question about your ownership of 4870, did you ever get any feed back from any of the royal family members on this car ?

    Regards,

    Ramin
     
  23. joe sackey

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    Apologies to eb911 for derailing the thread a bit, and to John for answering to this question even though it was not directed at me, but perhaps I can be forgiven as I owned 4870 prior to John and did in fact have contact with the Royal Family, Reza Pahlavi, the Shah's son, here in the USA. He was thrilled that the car had been rescued, and had fond memories of it in Teheran when he was a teen. I was also in touch with the Shah's nephew, Kamyar Pahlavi, also in the USA, who shared the same sentiments and a few more stories of his famed Uncle.
     
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    Moderators, lets please move these posts (for which I'm to blame) to the thread about 4870, (we have a dedicate thread) because the thread of the Italian job Muira is one of the most fascinating on Fchat.
     
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