Great song. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0BVLPm2zrQ][HD] Florence + The Machine - Dog Days Are Over (GF 2010) - YouTube[/ame] >8^) ER
Censorship? Many of us read the 2012 Proposed Agreement (signed/executed by CG), which OJ just posted. Nothing at all controversial, ultra-sensitive or disparaging in there.
Not censorship. Posting of private and personal information is not allowed. 1. General Posting Rules: 1.5 No "Personal" Information: Please do not post the personal name, address, phone, email, private communications, or other information without the individuals permission. The proposed agreement posted included personal information posted without permission. Mike
If them's the rules, then you certainly have your work cut out for you! OJ has posted many copies of docs and emails which contain various people's email addresses and tel nos. Maybe OJ can repost these various items with the personal information redacted?
Please note: the rule: 1.5 No "Personal" Information: Please do not post the personal name, address, phone, email, private communications, or other information without the individuals permission. includes 'private communications', etc. Mike
Let's start fresh. Since Swaters is a public figure with his own website with documents, I will use names when I think approriate. Since court records are public documents, and they name names, I will use them as needed. On 2010.02.25 I acquired a 70% ownership interest in Karl Kleve's stolen 1954 Ferrari 375 Plus VIN 0384AM (hereinafter "Ferrari"). I acquired this interest from Kristi Kleve-Lawson ("Lawson"), Kleve's heir, after being interviewed by the Lawsons, which is after I was interviewed by the prior recovery agent working since 2007. Lawson had just been sued by a Jacques Swaters, a Belgian, and his daughter Florence who claimed he acquired ownership of Kleve's stolen Ferrari per some "1999 settlement agreements" signed in New York - case A1001370 Swaters v. Lawson. Those "1999 settlement agreements" are signed by the Belgian's business partner ("Lancksweert") who admitted before a notary that "Kleve is the owner" of the Ferrari that had been "removed from his [Kleve's] possession." Years later, Swaters' forensic document expert would scientifically prove that the document was altered after Kleve signed, but not after Lancksweert signed. I offered the financier role for my recovery effort to a business colleague, hereinafter "financier." Financier would not commit. I offered "financier" partnership. No commitment. I offered "financier" a joint venture. No commitment. It took until 2011.01.31 to come to terms in a written contract (hereinafter "Contingent Reward Finance Contract"). I say contingent reward because the reward to the financier was contingent on his financing through "trial, appeals, and physical recovery." I wrote the contract that way because I am an Architect, and I know if you finance a three story building, you want that financing until all three floors are built, with the roof and landscaping, ready to occupy, so that there will be no squeeze by the lender. On 2011.04.05, my financier and I signed and notarized Change #1 to that contract. We litigated intensely for the next few years. The financier started to default on his required payments, first gradually, then completely. I replaced the financier with a new source. The likelihood of a settlement loomed large and the financier realized he was going to miss out on a reward. On 2012.04.20 the financier emailed our attorney Haas and emailed me a whole new proposal to buy an interest in the settlement proceeds. We declined. A copy of my email declining that offer is below. The relevance here is that on 2013.09.24 the financier filed suit in Ohio claiming he was no mere financier but that I was his attorney and that he, the financier, was really the owner - case A1306451, Gardner v. Ford & Lawson. That was a ridiculous claim and was contradicted by years of emails and documents. In fact, in 2012 the financier even tried to re-buy an interest in the settlement proceeds from Lawson and me, further proving my point a sto who the owners were, and are. On 2012.04.20 I replied to the financier's 15pp written proposal, saying basically no thanks. My 2012.04.20 email reply is below, exactly as I have described. IMHO, the financier clearly defaulted quite some time back and has zero credibility, as shown repeatedly and consistently by contemporaneous emails and documents. More about the alleged 2013 settlement, the Heads of Agreement, and the unauthorized (i.e.void) auction, all in the near future. Joe Image Unavailable, Please Login
Crikkey; if you want me to respond to your private messages you need to enable your private messages to receive.
I am opening this thread and closing out the 0384AM saga that reeled me into this F-chat. My post on the Monaco Yacht Show is my last post mentioning anything to do with 0384AM. From this last post, I am starting in Venice new. I open this thread for members and want- to- be members of my elite circle that support living the Max Vito Lifestyle with Kool Vintage Ferraris. Please, no real names in the thread and no nasties, just good fun and Vintage Ferrari Rumors, or true stories. Image Unavailable, Please Login
How about a pic or two of your Lusso and Monza? Surely they look better than Sir Roger Moore does? Marcel Massini
Hi Marcel, Do you really think I will show off my cars to this lot? Not even you can find the chassis numbers from my Ferrari toys. Photos below. All my Ferrari's are Giallo FLY. That might give you hint to the team and drivers I support. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Ya your right Marcel...she needs a little more than a 'lick' of paint. Image Unavailable, Please Login
To the moderators - who for some reason closed an epic thread that did deal with an actual vintage Ferrari - are you really now going to permit Mr. Vito to continue to create posts in this section that are have two key characteristics: they have nothing to do with any actual vintage Ferrari; and they are full of personal attacks against individuals that he doesn't like. What the hell is going on? Why is this happening while Mr. Lay is OOO?
Max Vito - 30 day ban for name-calling. The 'epic thread' you referred to is temporary closed while under discussion in the Mod forum. This happens to be happening while Rob is OOO because that's when it happened. No grand conspiracy... it just worked out that way. Mike
After review by the moderation team, the thread is being reopened. This is subject to the following ground rules. - As always participants bear complete responsibility for everything they post, Ferrarichat is a channel, not the source. We're not here to take sides. - Existing Ferrarichat rules of proper decorum, against personal attacks, against more than one user ID, etc, will be strictly enforced. - This is the only thread for this topic. Posting or creating threads elsewhere on this topic, will be cause for ban. - Rules of privacy may need clearer explication. We respect privacy and wish to help maintain that wherever possible. We also observe and obey legal authority and will act accordingly, if proper notice is provided to us of privacy violations that have been made by users on the board. Beyond that, if private info is already in the public domain, then it is not necessarily our responsibility to delete it. If private info is not in the public domain, it may still depend on circumstances. For example, it is generally a courtesy to not post private emails/PMs sent by party A to party B. Nice people don't do things like that. But in practice, there can be no unilateral requirement of privacy of A on B, by the mere act of sending something from A to B. Without a confidentiality agreement between A and B, or local law, either party A or B or both may be able to disclose that communication. Keep it in bounds and keep it to this thread. Notice of perceived violations can be sent to the moderators for review via the /!\ button on each post.
