Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

Not sure why you were banned judging by the posts. I'm guessing people got sick of hearing about the Porsche vs McLaren stuff. I guess CL gets a free pass since he is an owner and such, but he was getting really annoying.

He posts one video of him launching a GT3 against a 12C driver sleeping at the wheel, and is now convinced the GT3 pulls a 12C on a straight. He's convinced that the GT3 post-engine swap had a gearbox re-map that makes it way quicker than before, quicker than a TTS and 12C, and that this version would have bested the 650S Spider in the Autoexpress test, yet no one else in the entire world has mentioned any noticeable change to the GT3 post-recall.

 

Like every other cultist out there, there are a few things that you grab on for dear life as the means to help you feel better about yourself, and the state of the world around you. "delayed production" "still haven't found buyers for all of them" "too heavy...dodgy brake feel".

Fact: 918 comfortably outperformed P1 in GB's 2 'largest' rags H2H...both also find the 918 extremely stable, natural, AND just as important...fun as f#$%! Even inspiring 'confidence' in steering and butt meter that P1 can't match. US rags are also reporting how great, fun, the 918 is to drive, both on road and on track. (Your response: "yeah but P1 version 2.0 is still to come" and that was their plan all along :rollseyes. The 918 is waaaaaaay more complex and incorporates far more bespoke components vs P1. Yet the car was 'finished' in a relatively short time frame, and brought to market...along with open admission that customer cars may well continue to receive on-going calibrations into ownership. You, of course, have zero respect for that ability (forget 'appreciation'. you are incapable of that when it comes to Porsche, or anything non Mac).

Fact: so far 800+ cars at $900K, not too shabby. Never mind your obsession with planned runs and 'how many cars are sold' as an indicator of which is 'better'.

It was NEVER going to be 'uncompetitive', but people like yourself built it up in your own minds that what Mac promised would indeed be the 'end all be all'. Mac promised the WORLD, but couldn't deliver that (still an amazing machine, dream machine, no doubt). Porsche err'd on the 'safe' side but ended up delivering plenty.

 

Yup.

 

NUTS!

 

Like every other cultist out there you just want to ignore the 918's deficiencies and the reason why so many people who were given the opportunity to purchase one passed on it after they got behind the wheel.

Good thing those journalists liked it - I hear they buy a lot of million dollar supercars, or not.

>8^)
ER

 

Nothing else to say.

Bravo/Nuff Said

 

Don't be fooled.

They're saying not the 918 is EASIER TO DRIVE, not necessarily easy to drive. And they say this because it's (apparently) more balanced, stable and predictable than the P1, as a good mid-engined car should be. However, they're not saying the 918's precision, linear and balanced ability takes away from the fun or excitement of the 918 as many Mac cultist would want you to believe. No. Any serious/in-depth driver, or review of the 918 has CLEARLY STATED THIS (it's fun, exciting, challenging, and it's balance, makes you want to drive it harder, explore it more). Is that such a hard concept to understand?

And no, the P1 wouldn't be faster if you learned how to drive it. The P1's been outclassed in every H2H vs the 918 (in acceleration, handling, braking, and track times). In addition, the 918 acceleration times have been spot on to factory claims, while the P1's have looked very suspicious (Autocar 0-186 at 22+ secs and Youtube VMax), etc..

And let's not forget; Mac declined the most recent Motor Trend request with Ace Driver Randy Pobst to pit the P1 vs the LaFe and 918. You don't think Pobst would have wringed out maximum performance of the P1???

As far as CH and other Brit Reporters: I'll say no more, and leave it at that. They have no credibility regarding Mac and the P1.

 

The 918 is a great car. Until you drive a p1. It recalibrates your senses and perception as a driver. It has that element, that connection that is not in the Porsche and that is missing from a lot of cars lately.

 

You could give some of these people a turn behind the wheel and they still wouldn't believe it. Perfectly content to parrot what the journalists tell them and whatever results they spit out, and blame any anomalies on simple bias or conspiracy.

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ER

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68MorVBvKcY]VMAX 200 Nissan GTR beats LaFerrari to 130mph - YouTube[/ame]

Jesus the LF is fast. They say that GTR has 1000hp.

 

Nice raceee

 

which of these 3 cars (P1, 918 and LaF) have you driven Peloton?

 

Your are becoming increasingly cry-baby-ish. going nowhere. Perfectly content to parrot what Mac and your Mac friends and inner-circle tell you, whatever the results they spit out, and blame any anomalies on simple bias or conspiracy. Hah.

 

He's sat in the P1 once. Which is more than a lot of us could say Although, fingers crossed nothing will get in my way, via favors from Porsche heads in my area I'll be flying out in a month or so to sample 918. Will get to ride in passenger seat with Porsche rep, and hopefully, HOPEFULLY be allowed 1 or 2 miles behind the wheel. I'm so excited and can't wait. Darn lotto tickets aren't happening so far

 

jeebers, monsters!

 

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Well that's certainly not ideal.

The 918's hot exhaust is how far from the fuel filler?

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ER

 

Another angle on the scene.

Probably a lot of explanations for how this could have happened, but given the number of cars that get gas every day and don't catch on fire, coupled with the relative new-ness of 918s in customer hands, Porsche could have a real problem to deal with again.

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Doesn't Porsche put gas filler on passenger side?

 

Not on the 918 - the charge port is on the side of the car we see in those pics. The fuel filler is on the opposite side where all that flame is at. Both are directly opposite of each other and high up on the B-pillar.

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Ok, thank you...T

 

Isnt one of the 918 owners here from Toronto? Whoever this is, i hope they are not injured. Porsche will most likely give them a new car.

 

Real shame for the owner.

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I seemed to recall not too long ago every single journalists were mesmorized by the sensational spec of the P1 and proclaim their love for it. They dissed the 918 until the time came for head 2 heads. And boy did they got the shock of their life when the supposedly slower 918 came out on top in every metric.

Funny how you were quoting journalists back then and now you abandoned on the side of the road.

I keep wondering, if McLaren hadn't cut production by 25%, would they even have a chance to sell 500, let alone 800+ like Porsche did with the 918. While the Porsche's base MSRP is a bit lower than the p1, by the time all the options are added, most are million dollar machines, and for the buyers of these machines, the difference between the 918 and the P1 is negligible.