Who is going to replace Alonso (if he leaves)?

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I agree that those are the 3 most likely options. Also agree that vettel will be the least likely and bianchi the most likely.

None of them will come close to alonso. Vettel is good but not on Alonso's level. Bianchi; hard to tell he's usually a second ahead of chilton but chilton is a shtt pay driver so that doesn't really put bianchi at elite level. Hulk is a journeyman I think is well established by now.


Conclusion: ferrari will have two #2 drivers. How many pts has kimi got them this year? If they lose alonso they will be fighting for tenths and the very last scraps of sponsorship money

 

It looks like the german may be making a move to the Scuderia. See rumors thread.

 

More wishful thinking than facts, here ...

The divorce between Ferrari and Alonso is just caused by mutual frustration.
Neither has managed to clinch a championship in 5 years of collaboration.
Ferrari is going through lean years; a reversal of fortune after the Schumacher era.

Alonso hasn't suddenly stopped being a good driver.
Starting afresh with a different team may give him a break.

 

The divorce at Ferrari is clear. Its the end of a power struggle and influence by LdM and FA. Nothing more. Mattiaci has been empowered FULLY by those who installed him. Hence LdM being literally pushed out after a public exchange with the Director of the conglomerate that owns 90% of Ferrari. Nothing more. FA is a casualty in a much larger scenario. He is fully expendable and has been told so in no uncertain terms.

He can stay but not on terms he finds agreeable(FA). This should be no big surprise. He is not the team.

 

How do some people on this site Fred is better than seb. I will never know Impo if you want the best driver get the guy with the most wins poles and championship over the same time . Fred got beat by LH and button was better most of the time than LH so if I was honda I wouldn't sign Fred I would go after LH but he not going to leave that seat for a honda

 

How do you figure Fred got beat by LH? They had the exact same point total. This whole post is wishful thinking. Fred took the title race to the finale twice in the last 5 years and did not have the best car in any of them.

To think Vettel would have won his titles in any car other than the RB is wishful thinking. Not say he didn't play a part and is underserving, but to just talk about wins and poles ignoring the equipment is naive.

 

How do we know that ferrari didn't have the best car . I think most would say that massa lost some pace after his accident this could all come down fa leading ferrari down the wrong path with development of the car . I think a driver's change is a great thing for Ferrari they will go in a different direction on setup and development.

 

I don't know but letting Fred go is a big mistake, IMHO. He's dragging that POS for the last 4 season to positions it doesn't belong to.

Then again, these days, F1 is about the car and not the driver. So if they can produce a really good car, even Jules Bianchi will be champion.

 

very true

 

Couldn't agree more. The dd was the killer of Ferrari/fred wdcs.

 

I think it WILL be Vettel...not certain Ferrari is getting the upgrade they believe they are though...

 

Good guess- you may be spot on! At Suzuka today, SV announced he will leave Red Bull at the end of this season for another adventure.

 

But nico beat schumacher who has the best overall stats in all of f1 history. And LH beat nico? But webber beat nico so he has to be better than all of them. I think the answer is we have to get webber back again

 

Based on your theory, Button should be the first driver H̶o̶n̶d̶a̶ McLaren should be signing as he appears to be better than Alonso and Hamilton!

 

wrong, wrong and wrong.

Everyone along the F1 pitwall KNOWS that Alonso is the best driver currently in the sport. Any Ferrari tifoso who thinks Sebastien is an upgrade from Alonso is smoking some bad stuff. Here's what I wrote about Sebastien last November:

"Despite his four consecutive WDC's, I am far from persuaded that Sebastien is the 'head-and-shoulders-better' driver that many believe he is. To me it is absolutely clear that for four years he was driving a car that was indeed 'head-and-shoulders' better than any other car on the grid.

"Mark Webber, a journeyman middle of the pack driver his entire pre-Red Bull career, suddenly is on the front row almost every race? Webber, a really good guy but only a fair driver, begins in F1 in 2002 age 26, racing for such mediocre teams as Minardi and Jaguar. When he joins Williams he is a little bit better than middle pack but nowhere near a consistent challenger. Then he joins RedBull in 2007 at age 31 still racing just above middle of pack for a couple of years as the car is improving.

"Comes 2009 and Sebastien Vettel joins Red Bull and a dramatically improved car. At age 33 after racing in F1 for seven years Mark finally wins his first F1 race, the 2009 German GP and his second, the Brazilian G.P. Comes 2010 and an utterly dominant Red Bull car and what have we in Mark Webber? - four F! wins, five poles (OVER VETTEL!) AND TEN PODIUMS!! He actually led the drivers' championship after Monaco and could have been 2010 World Champion if he had won the last race at Abu Dhabi and Fernando had finished no higher than third! This from a guy who had never been on the podium before!

"Sebastien is an outstanding driver, don't misunderstand me, as are at least a half dozen others, Fernando (to me the best driving today), Lewis, Nico, Kimi, maybe Daniel. But since 2009 and until this year F1 has been all about the Red Bull car. So I can do without Seb in my Ferraris. I want Fred to win a couple of WDC's in red and I also think the Scuderia has a potentially sensational young development driver coming up."

And now Vettel can't even keep up with teammate Daniel Ricciardo in equal cars. Ferrari is making a very bad mistake replacing Alonso with Vettel.

The mulehead has already demonstrated his foolishness and the accuracy of his name by referring to de Montezemolo as a hack lawyer. Unfortunately it appears that the bean counter who has assumed control of Ferrari wants Fernando out and Sebastien in. Does not bode well for the Scuderia.

 

Alonso gets a lot of grief for saying what we all know.
The Emperor of Maranello ain't wearin' no britches.

Seb can shine in a first class car. He won't find that at Ferrari.

 

Looks like SV will be Alonso's replacement. I can understand Alonso being frustrated with Ferrari, but does someone have an educated reason why Ferrari would be frustrated with the only driver on the grid that can take a POS and run in the top five?

I believe Vettel is excellent, but as we see this year, he is only excellent if the car suits him.

So why would Vettel leave Red Bull for third place car?

Strange times, selfish attitudes.

 

Everyone said the same about Hamilton's move to Mercedes. Just sayin'....

 

Sometimes the new broom sweeps the baby away with the bath water.

 

I don´t think anybody at Ferrari was frustrated with Alonso. Probably it´s just that Alonso asked for some guarantees that Ferrari knew they could not meet and they need someone who´s willing to stay there for at least 2 or 3 years.

Ferrari knows that whoever hires as a replacement for Alonso won´t be an "upgrade", just the driver available at this moment, like Ivan Capelli was not an upgrade over Alain Prost. I just hope that they don´t get crazy and pay stupid money for Vettel. They´d better hire Bianchi for peanuts and spend in the car.