Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

Fire is a result of human stupidity.

Do you know what happend with control arms? Porsche took 918 to the Nardo track(which they now own) and took it to the limits. Hence control arms were replaced because they failed at Nardo.

Do you think McLaren, Ferrari have been as thourough as that?

 

I personally feel it's unnecessary if trying to prove which car is faster but for fun and durability long lasting then why not i hope they have fun and gets a Laferrari/918 into the mix.

This sure will help all car manufacturers to keep improving and deliver better future cars/updates to us.

As far as your upcoming car wishing you good luck and looking forward to see the final production car.

Mbn

 

Not necessarily, the gt3's did not burn from a squigee

Mclaren and ferrari have there own kind of testing and quality control, which so far have proved to be more than competent.

 

Cheers!

 

I'm pretty sure the manufacturers are following up with what's going on, particularly this challenge. Exciting times!

 

I'm sure specially Pagani i wish they go hybrid or offer a more powerful version of the Huayra.

I'm waiting for that to happen as I showed my interest to Pagani few months ago if they decided one day to do either.

Btw. Did you see the P1 GTR it was in AD for a special preview as I heard !

Can't take this car out of my mind since woking !!!

Drive safe.

Mbn

 

Pretty Fast, he laps the Ring in about 7:14? His driving position and his way of steering is something different than some other pro's.

 

A Hybrid pagani is inevitable, its the future.

Yup it was in ad, sadly I flew out of town one day before

 

I wish you saw it I never thought such car or program goes to my liking but after what I saw and heard at woking I was amazed to a point I can't stop thinking about it.

Tokyo is next and final.

Mbn

 

Drift' has a way with 'truth' and 'facts'. Well before details emerged, he had already proclaimed that the 918 fire was due to 'serious design flaw' and this will be a huge problem going forward. He jumps on every little thing that could be used 'against' Porsche and spins it into something else entirely. Here's the best part...Someone else said this not long ago: "for a guy that has a 918 on order, you spend a lot of time talking sh$% about it". Negativity and making things up. That's all he does. Strange.

 

It must have been one heck of a pitch my Mac. I guess they 'sold' you on it then huh?

 

Here we go again

sometimes I feel there is a repeat button somewhere here

 

Haven't decided on a color yet, but I'm leaning towards some form of yellow with the Weissach package. Porsche's own Racing Yellow is pretty nice, but I haven't had a chance to sit down with Porsche Exclusive and see what other yellows are offered.

There is no doubt that the 918 performs better than its manufacturer's claim. All Porsche does that and the 918 is no exception. I really hope Mclaren allows more magazine tests so we can gauge the P1's performance better. Of the ones that were published (eg. Top Gear magazine and Autocar) so far were a little bit disappointing.

I am a big Mclaren fan (I have a 12C coupe as well) and I really admire their engineering pedigree and corporate ethos. I sincerely hope the P1 lives up to its claimed performance.

 

That's the sort of thing you are supposed to figure out before production begins. They even have computer simulations for this stuff before a single part is built.

It's funny how some people here are all upset over McLaren not releasing a video, but ready to fully excuse Porsche for going into production with compromised parts that should have been weeded out in their tremendously long development cycle for the 918. A stop-sale and a recall for a car that has already been delayed 9 months is NOT a good show from this company that is supposed to be one of the pinnacles of automotive engineering.

>8^)
ER

 

Maybe it's his fathers 918 (Tilt)!?

Love Ya Drift! But you do ofttimes say some very wacky, troll like, and contradictory things.

I guess you're having fun?

 

What's wacky? The squigee or the fact that the fuel inlet being so close to the exhausts poses a big fire risk.

Contradictory? Admitting the fact that the I think the 918 is a great car but at the same time stating what I don't like about the car. I don't believe that's contradiction.

Sometimes being too attached or protective of a particular thing blinds you from seeing the real picture or truth.

 

Not that this going to make a difference. But the fact that you seem to overreact to things concerning the 918, then appear so blase regarding things concerning the P1.

It has nothing do with what many of us ike or don't like. We just see the contradictions. And some of them are bad.

For example: You openly stated, and asked me, 'why the 918 burns up it's battery so easily'. Then you steadfastly said the P1 doesn't lose charge. Anyone/everyone knows, with a modicum of knowledge how the two cars work. I and other tried to explain it to you, so I won't repeat those arguments here.

You made a lot of wacky statements when you first started posting (and even later) regarding P1 performance over the 918, which were woefully wrong and misguided. To this day, there's nothing that supports what you said.

Many felt that you were premature in that 918 Canada fire incident, criticizing Porsche before the facts were even settled. And they're others. But I'll stop here.

Quite frankly; you come off as a person seeking an argument, devoid of any actual facts or measured reasoning; especially for a reputed owner.

This is why I mentioned, you must wanting to have fun in my previous post. No biggie really. You like to have fun, get a reaction.

Hopefully, others will chime in (if you're sincere to hear). I've said enough. lol

 

Lets not repeat the argument and be clear about this. You claim that everyone knows, but in reality that's not the case. The 918 will lose charge in hl mode and its performance will decrease after that. The p1 will run the same performance lap after lap. The p1 does not have a hl mode nor does it need it.

So motortrends 9.8 @148.9 is misguided. Oh wait that's right it was done on a validation prototype. Your right. No worries You will see real world numbers soon that will blow your mind away.

There is nothing fun about a car burning in a gas pump.

Premature with regards to the incident? Weren't you guys prematurely blaming the guy?

If Porsche had their tank fill inlet in the traditional place, in the front fender, this wouldn't have happened. No matter what you did with that squidgee

 

That also means Porsche is not about just selling out the production run to make some quick bucks like a certain unnamed manufacturer, but to continue test the car to see what needs improvement. They are there for the customers and not just for their money.

The 918 has bested every single benchmark Porsche said it would do, unlike a certain car which never even come close to what the principal said it would do. But hey, that car has a profit margin of more than half a mil per car, what's not to like as it might be one of the most profitable car ever. Who else would have dream of the success of selling a 700k car at 1.3mil and get the board's approval to do it?

 

So let's get this straight: you claim to already own a P1(a claim in which I am not sure I believe), a car in which you also claim is FAR superior to the 918 in virtually every way. You also claim to currently have a 918 on order, a car which you take every opportunity to denounce here even to the point of claiming that the design is fatally flawed and many 918s are destined to burn to the ground. And to top it off, you believe the $1MM 918(again a car in which you claim to have on order) will soon depreciate by 1/2 it's value or a loss of about $500,000.

Are you a masochist??? If not, why would we believe your ludicrous claims? Are we really supposed to believe that you are willing to take a $500,000 bath on a car that you insist on continually bashing, claim has fatal flaws in its design/construction, and swear that it under performs and is less entertaining to drive than the P1 which is already in your garage.

If you are legit then I must say congrats because rarely does someone with your flawed logic become wealthy enough to purchase two $1+ MM cars in the same year. God bless America...



You have to love the internet, where anybody can be anything...well at least pretend to be anything.

 

Yup, cause the P1 runs as a 727hp car masquerading as a 903hp car. That's why it doesn't have a Hot Lap mode. If you believe the P1 can run as a 903hp car all day, then the 918 will also run as a 887hp car all day in Race mode. Race mode is exactly the same setup as the P1, actually on second thought it's better as there is braking regen to charge in addition to engine recharge.

The P1 doesn't have enough battery reserve to run a Hot Lap mode, that's why it doesn't have one. The 12C's platform doesn't have room left for a bigger battery, what it got is the max McLaren can put in it, unless of course McLaren takes out the passenger seat and put the battery there too, then it will have a Hot Lap mode.

There is nothing to be ashamed of for McLaren to come in 3rd, Ferrari and Porsche are the heavy weight and they are the heavy favourites too. It should a great thing to celebrate for the newcomer McLaren to come so close with the P1 even with it's compromises. I am sure their next ground up design master piece will be the benchmark for others to measured against.

 

I 'think' he is from the Middle East, so whenever you fill up your tank at a gas station, some of that money goes to his father's wallet.

 

Mate, I usually don't get into this kind of back and forth, but I would love to have your kind of money.... I've never seen anyone spend about a million bucks on a car they like nothing about... Just doesn't make sense. I can understand you prefer P1 and that's the almighty perfect car for you, but you've supposedly ordered a 918 as well that you are not any bit convinced about...
Sincerely, from everything you've written I don't think you need to be ordering a 918, if you believe all the things you've written on this thread about Porsche and the 918, you really should not be buying one.

I could say more ....but I will leave it here.

Let us know when you get your 918 and what you do with it.

Cheers!

 

Bravo! My thoughts exactly....

 

I was amazed that McLaren could sell so many mp-12c at a million pounds, but reading how little customers understand of their car and cars in general, I now know why. Being a Mclaren salesman must be the easiest job on earth, and being a Macca evangelist easier still. But then it comes with smaller bonuses.