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Jules Bianchi Undergoes Surgery

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  1. redhead

    redhead F1 Rookie

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    For those wondering, since I was, it appears the Hospital is 14-15km's away from the Track.
     
  2. Mulehead

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    The helo might not have been able to land at the hospital . If he would hit it any other way he wouldn't had a chance it's sad but I'm glad none of the track marshals got hit . Thank god the cars and helmets are so good he has a chance .
     
  3. mikelfrance

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    That is true. But, visibility is a changing thing. I wonder if that was a factor.

    I still believe the race should have been postponed or stopped though. I turned on the TV and thought for sure i would see cancelled on the screen.
     
  4. joker57676

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    We're not talking different languages. All I was saying is that the arguments about whether the helicopter was able to fly is a red herring. The use, or lack thereof, of the helicopter was not cause of Jules's injuries and did not exacerbate them. No one has alleged that Jules' injuries would have been less severe had he been transported by helicopter.


    Mark
     
  5. tifosi12

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    Meanwhile the same surgeon who saved MS is being flown to Japan to work on Bianchi.
     
  6. kraftwerk

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    Are we to assume that is good news or bad ?
     
  7. tifosi12

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    Given the severity of the impact I see that as good news: there is still something left to operate on
     
  8. Simon^2

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    It means he's alive.

    Since The neurosurgeon is being flown in,... it does imply additional surgery is planned soon. If he had been hired to review the case,... that could have been done anywhere. Now he could be coming to reassure the family face to face that care is appropriate.

    Needing another surgery so soon implies brain damage was more severe than could be dealt with during the prior surgery (and there have been several posts reporting he had two surgeries that first day / night...). More damage is never good.
     
  9. maulaf

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    this is quite baseless speculation.
    According to German news Prof. Saillant has been at the hospital from noon into the evening (Japanese time) and has left the hospital a while ago.
    His presence does not mean anything. A brain is an organ of unknown complexity and it doesn't seem unusual to have experts attend specific cases/surgeries. Prof Saillant might just be the best mind on the planet when it comes to this kind of injury. It might well be that he reviewed the done work of the local doctors and is pleased with their work and the results. Having the best doctor money can buy is what you'd expect from F1.

    So from my armchair perspective Prof. Saillant's appearance is not a bad sign at all, it is purely a sign that the injury and recovery are taking as serious as they can be taken.
     
  10. crinoid

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  11. VIZSLA

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    Double Argh!

    It could just Luca being Luca making a bit of noise as he leaves but I suspect not.

    One thing that it indicates is that three car squads are (or at least were) being considered. If they're still on the table it would explain why almost no one has announced driver lineups.
     
  12. ricksb

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    I actually recall hearing this when the prospect of having a third car on the grid came up. Massa was very complimentary about Bianchi's skills and ability to have success at Ferrari.
     
  13. VIZSLA

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    He impressed me this year. Beyond the obvious its a shame that he'll never get the chance.
     
  14. Simon^2

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    Is this baseless speculation?
     
  15. greyboxer

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    This appears to be quoting a new official statement

    Bianchi still ?critical but stable? | Adam Cooper's F1 Blog

    “Jules remains in the Intensive Care Unit of the Mie General Medical Center in Yokkaichi. He has suffered a diffuse axonal injury and is in a critical but stable condition. The medical professionals at the hospital are providing the very best treatment and care and we are grateful for everything they have done for Jules since his accident.

    “We are also grateful for the presence of Professor Gerard Saillant, President of the FIA Medical Commission, and Professor Alessandro Frati, Neurosurgeon of the University of Rome La Sapienza, who has travelled to Japan at the request of Scuderia Ferrari. They arrived at the hospital today and met with the medical personnel responsible for Jules’ treatment, in order to be fully informed of his clinical status so that they are able to advise the family. Professors Saillant and Frati acknowledge the excellent care being provided by the Mie General Medical Center and would like to thank their Japanese colleagues.

    “The hospital will continue to monitor and treat Jules and further medical updates will be provided when appropriate.”
     
  16. VIZSLA

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    Perhaps someone can explain critical but stable. I'm sure that it is a legitimate medical term but seems contradictory.
     
  17. nerofer

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    Yes Jimmie, exactly: it came 28 minutes ago:

    16h05 en France (23h05 au Japon) - Bianchi toujours dans un « état critique, mais stable »

    English speaking readers must be reminded that "critique" in french is slightly less serious that its english translation "critical"...
    However, I remember having made this same remark for one of the communiqués about MS state of health, and these were the same exact words used...

    Rgds
     
  18. bobzdar

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    Diffuse axonal injury - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Does not sound good...
     
  19. Ney

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    While they do not talk about the degree of injury, it is not a good thing to have.

    Diffuse axonal injury - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
  20. nerofer

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    David,

    If the initial words of the communiqué were in French, "état critique mais stable" is a rather common "standard expression" used by doctors meaning something on the lines of:
    "his state of health is very serious, any pronostic is impossible but for the time being there does not seem to be a risk of aggravation".
    If there was a fear of a possible death occuring, then usually they would say: "le pronostic vital est engagé" .

    But, as said in my previous message, it is nevertheless impossible to deduce anything from that expression “état critique mais stable”, as I am rather certain that the same was employed for MS nine months ago.

    Rgds
     
  21. kraftwerk

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    I have a good feeling he will make it through this difficult stage, I can't explain why, my gut instinct, wishful thinking, I don't know but ...I do.
     
  22. tifosi12

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  23. davebuchner

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    That is not good news re the diffuse axonal damage - very poor likelihood of a good outcome for this type of widespread brain trauma.
     
  24. kraftwerk

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    And the worrying thing is I watched a program on coma's a while back, and believe me it is frightening the amount of life support machines that get turned off, whilst they maintain that the coma victim although unable to move in any shape or form communication wise, remain conscious.

    Long story short, experimentation with brain scanning, on fully conscious, and paralysed/coma scans were the same....:eek:
     
  25. maulaf

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    doesn't look good at all...
     

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