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Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

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  1. schumacher12345

    schumacher12345 Karting

    Jun 3, 2004
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    So only above 150mph does P1 have the advantage as expected.


    Now find a track where P1 will exploit that advantage.

    918 will win every track event.
     
  2. qwertstnbir

    qwertstnbir Formula 3

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    so who will organized track confrontation of big three? top gear in new season?
     
  3. boyko23

    boyko23 Formula Junior

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    Now, this explains a lot :)
    No hot lap mode;
    And deff 918 was with almost depleate battery-it doesnt switch off front motor at such low speed;
    And at the end even SS was honest, that this counts only on this day...:)
     
  4. unotaz

    unotaz Formula Junior

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    #12979 unotaz, Oct 10, 2014
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    Edited and corrected: The 918 tested in Autocar's comparison video was indeed in Race Mode, not Hot Lap mode.
     
  5. Peloton25

    Peloton25 F1 Veteran

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    918 wins out of the hole thanks to its 4wd traction and an abundance of torque. Think this through now - how many times do you launch from rest on a racetrack...?

    Bill_S is right - P1 has the power and weight advantage where it really matters, and also has the downforce advantage for those capable of exploiting its limits. I'd be careful waging your bets so quickly.

    >8^)
    ER
     
  6. unotaz

    unotaz Formula Junior

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    Enjoyed the race between the P1, 918 and the 1199 Superlaggera very much!!
     
  7. driftwithme

    driftwithme Formula Junior

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    Boyko and carmaven be like....but the 918's tire pressure sensor was flashing

    LOL
     
  8. mpowered

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  9. boyko23

    boyko23 Formula Junior

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    918 is in race mode, not HL.
    918 switchs off front motor at 270kmh, not 240kmh...
    918 has two modes for the tyre presure-street and race. This car was in street.
    Even P1 had problems with front left tyre... :) Very proffesional :)
     
  10. boyko23

    boyko23 Formula Junior

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    Do you want to explain how the two modes work on your future car, mr. "Owner"? :)
     
  11. driftwithme

    driftwithme Formula Junior

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    I think this video pretty much explains it all for you
     
  12. unotaz

    unotaz Formula Junior

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    #12988 unotaz, Oct 10, 2014
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    Boyko23,
    I stand corrected. Went back to my 918 technical briefing and realized when the 918 is in Hot Lap mode, it's highlighted in a bright red letter in the center gauge!
     
  13. boyko23

    boyko23 Formula Junior

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    Drift, improve your car culture and come again. You arent interesting opponent at any topic imv...
    And please dont send me useless PMs, haha. Will not respond...:)
     
  14. frefan

    frefan F1 Veteran

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    I think that is in reference/comparison to the 918 which first brakes the e-motors and then switches to (or adds) the conventional brakes.
     
  15. frefan

    frefan F1 Veteran

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    Thanks for the explanation Bill.

    Sounds like the P1 and LaF have a similar setup and the 918 is quite different.
     
  16. Oskar190

    Oskar190 Karting

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    I have calculated the LaFerraris onboard times which it achieved during a recent Vmax event at the same drag strip as these cars. It is not 100% correct but still very accurate. Bear in mind that it didn't use launch control. And I also measured the 100 to 200 mph sprint in a opposite direction to the sprint to 150 so wind may play a part. Anyway, here's the numbers.

    918 P1 LaF

    0-30 1.53 1.75 2.05

    0-60 2.95 3.24 3.60

    0-100 5.70 5.78 5.95

    0-150 11.43 11.18 10.80

    0-200 29.70 23.29 24.55 
     
  17. V8ray

    V8ray Formula Junior

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    I agree with this. ^
     
  18. TOOLFAN

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    #12994 TOOLFAN, Oct 10, 2014
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    There were two P1s at Sonoma yesterday. The black customer car was tracked by the owner, the other belongs to T price and was there for display. We were on track together (458 challenge). It's quick in a straight line, we were quicker overall, but it wasn't a race (of course) just a track day. The interior felt small (I'm only 5'8) but it's a very comfortable car. I apologize for the crappy cell phone pictures.
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  19. timothymoffat

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    #12995 timothymoffat, Oct 10, 2014
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    The article makes it sound like the time gap between 918 and P1 in 0-200mph is close to 10sec ("a little over 20s in the P1 and a little under 30s in 918). While3/10ths of a second is "a little under", 3.3 seconds is more than "a little over". The comment about the P1 being "out of sight" was a bit hyperbolic also as the P1 was still in plain view at the end of "the race".

    P1 definitely quicker in the upper end of the acceleration race which is about what was to be expected. 918 nowhere near the "slouch" in comparison. I'd be happy with either. Maritime Blue 918 and Mclaren/Papaya Orange for P1 if anyone is doing early Christams shopping please. And a full Giallo Modena/Cuio LaF (silver wheels) too while you're at it. Thankyou.
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  20. Speed Demon 1

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    Everyone keeps talking about >150 MPH performance?!?!? All 3 of these cars are street cars NOT track/race cars - that is why Ferrari is readying the LFXX. Given these are all street cars, what percentage of miles are driven under 150MPH vs over 150 MPH by all owners? I would hypothesize orders of magnitude more miles are driven (by owners) under 150 MPH than over 150MPH. I think the Porsche is the real winner here in "useable performance" for owners.

    I am speaking from experience as one of my cars has a stated top speed of 217 MPH and I can count in one hand the times I have had that car over 150 MPH! Pretty much only on track and that too on the front and back straights at COTA! (which is my favorite track)

    So I find people repeating the phrase "P1 is faster where it counts" to be not valid!

    And unlike many here actually like all 3 of these cars!
     
  21. schumacher12345

    schumacher12345 Karting

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    Think this through.

    918 gearing, 4WD, torque, brakes will give it advantage on 90% of the tracks in world.

    mechanical grip is hell of thing just look up the nissan GTR.
     
  22. frefan

    frefan F1 Veteran

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    There are several racing events here in NV that are on closed public roads where you could hit 200+ for 90 miles; and I plan to do that. Now what percentage of miles is that overall, not many...
     
  23. Speed Demon 1

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    200+ for 90 miles - hey, I want to do that! ;-)
     
  24. supermafy

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    918'd go better if in HL mode?
     

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