Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

About LaFe, calculated from speedo?

 

Yeah, maybe measure is the correct word but yeah from the speedo.

 

All the Porsche cultists on here are saying that the p1 is only quicker than the 918 above 150mph. There have only been two direct comparisons - on the same day - with published numbers (top gear and the new autocar tests) and both infact show that the P1 is quicker from 60 mph if you look at the printed numbers. The Porsche is a fantastic car but the actual printed numbers (and now video) show it is slower above 60mph

 

No surprise: 918 has much more torque, but P1 has more hp and at least 100kg less, and, maybe , better Cx when the wing is down

 

The question is: how the speed accurate is...?
I cannot understand why no LaFe's owner give us a vBox sheet

 

Even if 918 was equal in performance at all speeds, I'd rather have RWD over AWD, less weight and more downforce.

Not knocking the 918 in any way, I love the car personally and hope to own one someday.

 

You might see a 918 sail by as the smaller batteries in the P1 discharge for sure a LaF would leave you for dead

 

Wrong again

The p1 doesn't need its electric battery to maintain vmax

Remember the mclaren f1 reaches 243mph with 620hp,

 

WHAT!?!? You mean at extended periods of VMAX the P1 isn't producing all 903HP?

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Very cheap behavior from both auto car(+ss) and Mclaren , after several defeats, they wants to win it with cheating, too bad for a company like mclaren , mclaren's goal was about to create a winner at all types of road and tracks but now the P1 is a looser against 918 in this category!! imagine the 918 in race tire pressure, full charge of battery and hot lap! ok never mind for it , we can wait till motortrend, caranddriver or sportauto h2h + h2h videos of private sessions!

 

Its not a 903 hp car after all!!!

I'm gonna sell mine and buy the whole Porsche range of 911's because boyko suggests that I need to improve my car culture

 

Thanks for sharing!

Black looks sinister on the car. Interior might feel small at first due to the huge sills, but once your in its roomy and comfortable. It also rides surprisingly good.

Its awesome to see these cars being properly used and driven on track

 

Yeah - because some people just drive them to the mall.

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Based on this and the recent VMax video of the LaF, P1 and LaF are about equal in a straight line.

 

You'd be surprised how many shopping bags you can fit in the trunk

 

What's P1's top speed in race mode?

 

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Is your Google broken?

It's 205 MPH.

217 MPH in all other modes, besides E-mode.

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I'm going to directly call out - carmaven, hootan (modena), whoopsy, igor, boyco and scuderia and of course anyone else who would wish to join in. some very simple facts that I would like you to argue please.
1. there has only ever been 2 published head to heads, on the same day with actual acceleration numbers printed. (top gear and the latest autocar)? yes?
2. in both instances they have printed and stated that from 0-60 the porsche is fastest and from 60mph+ the P1 is fastest?
I would love for the porsche cultists to address these two concise points please

 

Let's post these again.
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And the TG from a few months ago. Funny.......I don't see where the P1 is demonstrably faster in this article. Not exactly much to go on from this very limited data. They seem extremely close.
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It's also funny to point out that while somewhere between 130 mph and 150 mph was where the P1 caught and passed the Carrera GT in this video, that doesn't mean that is the exact point at which the P1 is the faster car. To catch the 918 after its impressive launch the P1 will have needed to already be accelerating faster from a much earlier point in the speed range.

This is not rocket science - the P1 has a performance advantage well below 150 MPH and a rolling start say in the 30-40 MPH range, had they done another run, would have negated the 918s launch advantage and seen the P1 pass the 918 much sooner in the run to 200 MPH. This becomes much more relevant on a circuit where you don't stop at every corner.

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No this is not rocket science.

What continually gets me is supporters on each side (this really is 918 v P1 at this point) insistence that their chosen steed is head an shoulders above the other. There have been some pretty ridiculous comments along the way as well (p1's build quality being compared to a kit car and 918 being called slow are standouts). The reality is the cars are VERY close in overall performance.

 

If you're buying one of these and you're not tracking it then you're missing out on the true value of the car in my opinion. These cars are made for the track.

I can't think of a single track day where I did NOT go over 150 mph for some portion of every single lap except warm up and cool down laps. That's in a 458, an FF, a 12C Spider and a 650S Spider. To me that's the whole point of the car. If I only wanted to go 70 mph I can do that legally on the freeway and I sure as heck don't need a super car for that. With the P1 in race mode I expect to be going over 170 mph for some portion of most laps of my local track. I can't wait! To me that's the point of buying a hypercar. Even lolly gagging around Spa in a 650S I was over 160 mph on Kemmel straight. I should have been going faster but I was more concerned with learning the corners properly than establishing fast laps.

And yes even in my Ferrari hatchback I'm hitting speeds over 150 mph.

 

Absolutely agreed.