Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

Its a bit of a joke that the manufacturers, especially Ferrari and McLaren refuse to allow anything other than a very limited media testing regime. Only at Maranello or Woking and only in these circumstances with hand picked journalists. AND of course buyers are told they are not to allow their cars to be tested BUT as Top Gear has proven just find a wealthy middle east owner and they will be more than happy to agree to lend their car for the purpose of testing. Especially if it looks good. And why wouldn't you? It would appear that when push comes to shove, money talks. And Ferrari of Dubai is hardly going to say to their number 1 client who just lent their laf, no you cant buy anymore cars from us. Problem sorted fly out a few journalists, set up a day at Yas Marina and drive them like they were stolen, it will be neutral ground and will soon sort out the pick of the crop. But wait, the Italian journalist will talk about how he could feel those Italian horses in the Laf (stallions of course) the German will talk about the great build quality of the Porsche and the Brits will complain about the weather, mention the war, Lewis Hamilton, and then talk about how the car just feels quicker (whatever that means) and the Frenchman will just talk about where the cheese and wine is. Actually maybe my idea is crap.

 

Actually from a roll on the P1 shines even more ask me.

But I'm not in a position to bring the 918 down since it's a very good car and I enjoyed driving it and definitely holds its own place and my cousin actually love it.

But from my own experience no match when it comes to how agile the P1 feels or the ballistic acceleration the P1 delivers above that the well engenired aerodynamics.

It's hard to point out a winer all 3 wins but for my hard to please self McLaren really built what I asked for specially the drive/car connection which I really like.

Waiting for my Laferrari experience and I'm sure I'm not going to be disappoint.

Mbn

 

Unless you have it on good authority, I am more inclined to believe the factoyry which claims that all cars have been sold.

Regarding the embargo on a customer car, I too am disappointed by their attitude.

If you were a businessman though, would you ship abroad an expensive piece of merchandise just because someone feels like playing with it?

 

It's rather ironic to be called a fanboy by the father of all fanboys, don't you reckon?

 

Surely you realize the absurdity of your comment in this context.

So it's only "playing with it," when you don't want to do it, but it's considered "marketing" when you do. I see.

Surely you heard of this concept called marketing. Is it not obvious that tons of people want to see these three cars tested? Half the forum -- the biggest online group of Ferrari enthusiasts and owners on the Internet -- is wanting to see the test. Hell, even you really want to see it!

Do you also not realize that there are probably millions of dollars worth of Ferrari cars in transit every day? How many Speciale Spiders are getting ready to be sent out to journalists around the world to be beat up and perform pointless lap times? They'll burn up what, $50K worth of tires over the next month in powersliders and laps?

Hell, there was an LF parked at Chrysler's headquarters not long ago. Just sitting there on display for people to look at. My cousin works there and took some pictures of it.

I can't even believe I'm wasting time responding to you. Are you just trolling?

 

Did someone on McLaren Life tell you that?

 

I am being very serious. It's marketing only when you have to sell something. Otherwise it's just an expense without a return. Sure, I would want to see another test, but I admit that it makes no sense for Ferrari from a business point of view. I reckon that unlike me, you are not a businessman after all...

 

Someone who covers motorsport and automotive news here told me that. Works for a pretty big sports publication. Guess that's what the dealer told him. He seems credible. He's always covering big event like LeMans and at press events/drives etc.

 

Care to explain this to me then? Why do videos like this exist if, as you say, the car is long since sold out? Is it free to organize tests for all these people? Were the tires they wore out free too?

You're wrong, and not even just on a general level. They always have something to sell. An LF head-to-head test sells 458s, F12s, Californias. It sells t-shirts and shoes. It sells coffee cups and key chains. It sells tickets to F1 races. It sells the brand and every tangible thing under it, plain and simple. And they sure as hell don't sell F1 cars, but I guarantee you they get moved around and put on display places.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h33H91Ipyy4]LaFerrari 963hp on Road and Track - /CHRIS HARRIS ON CARS - YouTube[/ame]

 

What? I think you may need some coffee before you post again!

The ultimate irony is that we are discussing 918 Vs. P1 times on Fchat since Fiat decided to not to represent. The LaF has amazing specs and theoretically is the fastest. Why not prove it to the world?

 

It's OK to be wrong sometimes.

 

Actually they do - look up the Corsa Clienti program. Once the cars are a few years old they are open for purchase under a strict set of Ferrari-imposed rules.

>8^)
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That's not even slightly true. They use unsellable cars all the time to market the Ferrari brand. Just because showing up in a LaFerrari isn't going to sell a LaFerrari doesn't mean it won't help sell a California, FF, 458, F12 or some Ferrari-branded merchandise. Ferrari has lots of things to sell.

 

Ferrari have nothing to prove. McLaren, however...

 

That is true. Ferrari sells their old F1 cars. When you go on a factory tour they'll show you the Corsa Clienti shops where they keep customer cars and show you some of the F1 cars that are for sale. It's really awesome. The FXX cars they showed us each get a sticker when the client takes them to a track driving event. It was amazing to see how many of those cars had been to a LOT of track events at some of the most famous tracks in the world! It's a really amazing program if you're wealthy enough to participate.

 

They've both sold all their cars. They have nothing to prove. Now they simply parade them around to build excitement and (in McLaren's case) awareness for the other products they have to sell.

 

And that by definition IS regen braking. So who is right? The engineer who works for McLaren or Mclaren's own press release and repeated statement that the P1 doesn't have regen braking?

 

You are gravely mistaken. The LaFerrari is the company'w halo car, it has been driven by journos in order to report how awsome it is and that's the end of it. It has been like that for ages. Was there a factory Enzo which was tested with instrumentation? No! Do you really expect Ferrari to ship LaFerraris across the globe whenever a rag feels like doing a comparo?

The 458s and the F12s do not sell well due to the existance of the mighty LaFerrari. They sell well because a) they are great supercars on their own and b) they are Ferraris.

The F1 teams does most of the job of cap/jacket selling, even though we all have to admit that they such inside the tracks right now.

 

Why do you say that? Do you really think that coffee has psychotropic attributes? Will it make me change my mind?

As other have said, Ferrari doesn't have to prove anything.

 

Someone should write to autocar to ask why SS run the 918 in suboptimal conditions after the 5g BS and his wrong impressions on how much faster the P1 is. He is blatantly favouring McLaren and hope porsche never lend them cars again

 

Yes, there was. Spring 2003 saw journos from a few publications (EVO and Car and Driver for example) invited to Fiorano to test two different factory Enzos. The two cars at the event, one red and one yellow, were late development or pre-production cars. Road and Track was there also but the results in their road test were from a test of a customer car (Richard Losee's "MM Enzo").

I should also note the yellow/Cuio Enzo featured in Car and Driver's test was a customer car used for driving impressions in the US. The actual instrumented test results were from the Fiorano test.

 

Funny video , interesting that the mclaren driver was driving the p1 and sutcliffe was driving the 918 not in hot lap mode ( you can see the dash ) . To be fair I couldntvtell if it was over boosting or not as the camera wasn't close enough but it was definitely only about a second behind at the brake markers ( if that ). Suutcliffe exaggerating? Never , lol

V max soon , we have 918 , la Ferrari , Veyron and p1 there . I'll make sure I film SEVERAL runs for you all . Real drivers too not ringers

Bike was the most impressive BY FAR

 

Not sure, but I have a strong feeling, that 918 even didnt use launch control.
Neither of the stop lights were flashing?

 

That's what I mean by the over boost , well spotted

 

Steve Sutcliffe is a clown