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  1. Otto Paulsen

    Otto Paulsen Karting

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    ...and yes it is the same car.
     
  2. Nembo1777

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    HI Otto!

    Yes we are just ordering the unpublished archive photos of the article for you, now all we need is for you to complete the restoration and then we need to catch Fittipaldi when he visits Germany (which he does for business) for a souvenir photo and drive around the block:)

    I think it will be the only Khamsin back in that great light green but am too exhausted after a long day to be sure right now.

    All the best,

    Marc
     
  3. staatsof

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    This just makes so much sense but you will probably catch a lot of flak from the purists. The weakest part of all of this is still the water pump. I'm just not a fan of Maserati water pumps on the old V8's but I sure like this a lot better than typical setup for front engined V8 Maseratis from that era.

    Running the engine in on a dyno like that is also a good idea. A fair amount of work too!

    Congrats!

    Bob S.

     
  4. Mexico074

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    #5504 Mexico074, Oct 3, 2014
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    Hello Jan and Otto...

    There appear to now be 3 of us who own Khamsin's and Mexico's!!!!
    Attached is a picture I took yesterday in my car park area... Not
    the best picture, but wanted to post something...

    Both your Mexico's and K's look great!!!!

    Out of curiosity, how would you compare the driving experiences
    of both cars??

    Mike
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  5. Nembo1777

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    Hello AMLC,

    Hope you are well, bedankt for that.

    This is AM120US1258 and has been with this dealer for no less than seven years if not more. This dealer is viewed with concern in Italy because they never sell anything and no one in the car world knows who they are. Their price has also always been several years ahead of the market...
    This car was owned by Motorcar Gallery in Fort Lauderdale in the mid 1980's then brokered by Steve Ahlgrim in Atlanta Georgia before making its way to Italy.

    €210K is the strongest asking price I have ever seen and apart from one incredibly restored car (please don't ask me which one) which I accept could be worth €200K these people are dreaming or have had too much Grappa....or as several italians in the know suggest, they simply do not want to actually sell anything...

    Best regards,

    Marc
     
  6. Otto Paulsen

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    Hi Mike,
    I see you have preserved the genuine US decorum of the K. I salute you for the valiant resistance to Marc's pleas to demolish this unique landscape of black safety features around the K. It is just better protected this way. Why don't you understand Marc??
    When it comes to driving differences between the K and the Mexico, for me it is two worlds. The Mexico is amazingly civilized for a sixties car. A/C, disk brakes, power steering in mine make it a great grand tourer. It has a great chassis and handling qualities when compared to other sixties GTs somebody told me who knows more than me about cars of the era. I like to drive it on the grand tour and do so. I am not taking it to the limit or on the track, because I do not trust the rear axle construction a lot and it is an old and precious car. I prefer to handle it with care.
    The K is a different animal altogether. It drives much more like a modern car. More precise steering and braking assisted by powerful LHM magic. The K I drove mostly (now in good care at another custodian) had a slightly improved suspension and was judged (again by somebody who has driven much more of these cars than me) as probably the best handling K around. In fact I liked to take it to mountain roads, where the more powerful (in comparison to my 4.2 Mexico) and in this K well tuned 4.9 together with this steering and these brakes made the serpentines great fun. Well controlable sorties of the rear end included. Allright it is too heavy for a hillclimb championship for sure. But it is much more able to perform on a higher level of dynamics than the Mexico.
    Well for me that is... In the end it lies in the eyes of the beholder or in case of driving machines it is probably more the beholder's bottom ;)
    All the best, OP
     
  7. velocetwo

    velocetwo F1 World Champ

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    Thats a nice Rivolta GT!
     
  8. Merak1974

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    Not a Rivolta... It's a Maserati Mexico.
     
  9. staatsof

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    He's just yanking your chain. He's a huge fan of Is So Revolting automobiles ... so yank back a little ;)
     
  10. Mexico074

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    Khamsin Oil Pressure Question....

    Ok, my mind must be going, as I can't remember things from one time to the next..
    Perhaps life has gotten too busy!!!

    Anyway... Yesterday, I performed an oil change on my Khamsin - drained the sump,
    the tank, and replaced the oil filter.. What a nice car to perform this on!! Everything
    is so accessible!!! Added about 7 quarts of oil and let it sit overnight to see if anything
    was leaking.. No leaks - good!!!

    Today I started the car and noticed there was no oil pressure for about 5 seconds, before
    it picked up!!! Scared the $%^# out of me.. Once oil pressure was up, I checked the
    oil level in the tank and added a bit.. When I looked at the oil pressure gauge again, it
    was back to zero.. I immediately turned the engine off and checked everything.. All
    looked good.. Restarted the engine and the car seemed to react as usual, ie: good oil
    pressure!

    Has anyone else noticed anything like this? Given the engine is dry sumped, I would
    expect a few seconds delay after a complete oil change for the pressure to build
    back up. It was when it dropped back down that sort of surprised me.. I can't remember
    this from previous oil changes.. Could it have been air in the system that was purged
    once the engine had been running for a bit more?

    Thoughts??

    Mike
     
  11. abarth69

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    7 us quarts sounds like not enough oil they hold something like 14L ?
    I fill the filter with new oil then install also turn the car over a few times with out starting. Pull a coil wire off
    I think you are okay

    Cheers

    Mark
     
  12. abarth69

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    Just looked it up the car holds 13L you should of needed about the same in US quarts

    How many did you use ?

    Cheers

    Mark
     
  13. Mexico074

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    Hi Mark...

    Yes, you are correct, it should be around 13L... I double checked and saw
    that I added 12 quarts.. I will add more and test again tomorrow...

    Thanks...

    Mike
     
  14. Mexico074

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    Hello Otto...

    I concur with your findings when comparing the driving characteristics of the Mexico
    and Khamsin..

    The Khamsin is very much like a modern car! Those brakes are awesome, the steering
    so light with no twitching... Just never let go of the steering wheel in a turn or curve!!
    The 4.9 delivers plenty of power (for me)!!! Every time I drive her a smile comes on my
    face!

    The Mexico is a different animal! The car, in my opinion, is a bit under-powered in 4.2L
    version. On the other hand, this is no where near as sports-car like as the Khamsin,
    and thus does not need to be as quick and easy to handle as the Khamsin.
    This is not a criticism.. It is a very heavy car, and lets itself be driven easily. With this
    car, you don't necessarily want to drive it very fast. When I lived in FL a while back, I
    was on my way home from Orlando when a very bad storm (no hail, but strong winds)
    caught me on the turnpike. The Mexico was awesome in this weather. The weight held
    her perfectly planted on the road. There was no buffeting from the wind, or puddles
    of rain. And what can one say about the looks!!! It is an absolutely GREAT LOOKING
    car!!!

    Mike
     
  15. abarth69

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    Mike

    I hope you are using a good 20-50W oil with lots of ZDDP in it .
    Cheers

    Mark
     
  16. Reddy

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    #5517 Reddy, Oct 12, 2014
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    Hi,

    I was wondering if someone could give me an advise on how I could remove the cylinder as marked in the Picture below (steering governor) in order to Change the seal.

    Thank you,

    Armaz
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  17. Reddy

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    #5518 Reddy, Oct 12, 2014
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    Hi again,

    It seems as if the seat height adjustment Switch is leaking. Since I am not very familiar with These hydraulic blocks it would be interesting to know if:

    a) there are any o-rings which Need to be replaced
    b) there are any sieves inside the blocks which Need to be removed

    I would appreciate your Support.

    thanks

    armaz
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  18. Mexico074

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    Brake System Fitting help needed...

    Fellow K and other LHM brake system car owners, I need some help with the
    fittings between the two brake spheres.. Today I took the Khamsin out for
    a test drive after changing the oil and spark plugs. Car ran very well!!!
    Got home, opened the hood, and found LHM fluid leaking from one of the
    fittings on the S shaped tube that connects the two brake spheres! I used
    and 11mm flare wrench to take these male fittings off and remove the
    S shaped pipe and fittings.. . I suspect they are probably
    11mm or 7/16" fittings used with 3/16" pipe. I am not sure of the TPI
    (threads per inch).. Any help here would be appreciated!!!

    Mike
     
  19. JLorenzetti

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    This was my father's Bora. I have photos of the original colour. Gold/Bronzedepending on the light and time of day. We called it the BULLET! Miss that car....who has it now?


     
  20. abarth69

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    Armaz

    Yes MIE sell the little o'rings and little brass rings . Very hard to install I understand

    These parts are out of Mercedes Pullman 600

    Cheers

    Mark
     
  21. staatsof

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    Mike it's been a while since I did this but those adapter fittings were available from MIE at the time. The two brake spheres use a thread different from that of the pipe and fittings in the car. There are products for sealing these threads from companies such as loctite (Henkle) and that might fix your leak. A local hydraulic service/supplier probably will have that.
     
  22. staatsof

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    When I had the leak under the seat in my Bora that destroyed the carpet I thought it was the cylinder. It turned out to be just the O-rings in those connectors with the U clip retainers.
     
  23. AMLC

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  24. Nembo1777

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    AM120156, born orange automatic (yes!) new to the Uk even if it was left hand drive, then converted by a collector in period to 5 speed, was owned by a major collection in Belgium for some years before this dealer sold it recently.

    Best regards,

    Marc
     

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