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Official 328 GTB/GTS Market Thread

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  1. Albert-LP

    Albert-LP F1 Veteran
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    Yes, they are just asking prices, but if you ask to have the car for 70 k, they won't give you the car, so they are not just figures written there

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  2. Albert-LP

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    I hope it's something like the Dino 206-246 case. In any case i just buy cars that i like very much, so if prices will go down, i will be happy the same.

    At the moment here prices are still rising: i talked friday with Autoluce owner and he told me he has to pay enormous amount of money to find good cars to sell. He had just purchassed in that day morning an excellent 355 and he told me what HE paid to have the car... an impressive figure.

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  3. nerofer

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    I guess that when the cars enter into the "classic" age, the difference between a "good" and and "excellent" car is what justifies high prices.
    But "good" 355 are still depreciating here, they have not yet reached their floor, even if the car is now 20 years old; "excellent" 355 command about 55 to 60.000 euros.
    Interesting to note that the 328 reached its price "floor" more or less in 1998-1999, after 15 years.
    So if I read you well Alberto, this means that the italian market, at least for "classics" (308 / 328 / 355) has stopped his downfall? Because a year ago everybody was saying that the best place to shop was Italy.
    And what about "moderns" like 360/430 these days?

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  4. snowsports1

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    If you own a 246 dino or similar value Fcar, buying a good 308 for 90K is a no brainer, you can use it, enjoy it and not worry to much. There are people out there now buying as many as they can get there hands on, the 5 or 6 308s at the Silverstone auction were bought by one bidder.

    The 70/80s Fcars are due a serious correction in value. The magnum generation are now out there with more money looking for their first Fcar! As the values go up people expect the quality of cars to increase with the value therefore restorations and work that was avoided (due to low value of the car) needs to be done. This further increases the value so it escalates. Ferrari is a relatively new thing on this planet and we are talking about a model that is getting on for 40 years old.

    I am pretty sure the bubble isn't going to burst as some people have been predicting on this forum for some years. The market will hopefully settle down and values will continue to rise on the sort after models which the 308 certainly is.
     
  5. Albert-LP

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    Here 308 and 328 prices started climbing one year and half ago. 208 Turbo - turbo intercooler prices are rising even more but just on the very last months.

    Here in Italy two years ago we reached the bottom of prices.

    Since two-three years we are full of foreign operators that visit Italy just to buy our cars (Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati and also Porsche).

    360 and 430 are sitting here, as they pay big taxes that 20+ years cars do not pay, but prices are no more Italian, so you pay not much less than in France or Germany: foreign operetors come here not for the prices but as we have a lot of such cars here. Big availabiliy is the strenght of italian market, while prices are more or less what you have in France.

    Here you will find very good prices for 355, 360, 412, 456, 550, 575, 612, 430 and California.

    An excellent 355 GTB/GTS here now is 55-60 k: one year ago was 35-40 k.

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  6. nerofer

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    Thanks Alberto

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  7. Gilles82

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  9. barabba

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    In Switzerland there have usually been around 12 to 18 328s available at any one time (autoscout24.ch).

    In the last few weeks though all cars have gone. Only one remains, without catalitic converter though. Quite a shopping spree :)
     
  10. nerofer

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    More or less the same in France these days: about ten cars for sale, all supports taking into account. Only three for instance in "La Centrale", against about ten usually; all three have and asked price between 85 and 90.000 euros.
    My guess is that the prices have spiked so much since last year that no-one knows what should be the right bracket of prices for a 328: cars advised at about 90.000 euros do not seem to sell...i think that the best cars change of hands outside the adds circuit, and that many owners hold to their cars, waiting to understand what the true tendancy actually is.

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  11. barabba

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    Curious to see where these cars will be say in ten year's time. Somehow I hope they don't become so expensive that you cannot drive them any more.
     
  12. nerofer

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    Exactly my thoughts: should we need to take too much care, that won't be fun anymore...

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  13. furmano

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    Anyone know of any 328 GTB for sale in the US? It seems the wave came and went and there's nothing on the market right now.

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    75912 on this forum ?
     
  17. furmano

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    Yes it is. I believe the current owner was considering offering it for sale.

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  18. nerofer

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  20. nerofer

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    A typo in the VIN: should be ZFFWA20C, not 2DC ("20" meaning GTS, whereas "19" means GTB)

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  21. spirot

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    I was just reading the latest issue of Cavalino and in the back it has all the prices... so what I found interesting is Series I GTO was "down" to $35M to $50M while the 328 GTS prices were up from $40 to $250K ( one off sale ) ... but clearly prices going up and by huge margins in europe.

    I'm happy to see prices going up but alarmed that they are way out of control OR just finally getting to the rightful place?
     
  22. nerofer

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    Cool down, Tom, and sip a glass of that Pichon-Longueville while calmy wondering...

    It is true that the ASKED prices have spiked to about 80 / 90.000 euros for very nice cars with "low mileage" (from 10 to 20 k MILES I would say...) this from 45 to 50 a year ago...BUT those cars do not seem to sell for the time being!

    What I understand is that some (how many?) 328 are trading at about 100.000 euros, but only pristine very low miles cars for private collectors who already own some Ferraris.
    As for rest, the reasonable, actual bracket at which cars actually trade is very difficult to know for the time being.

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  23. barabba

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    For the first time since I follow regularly the 328 classifieds, there are NO 328 for sale. I'm impressed.
    Let's see if it's just a seasonal thing (this day one year ago, autoscout24 had 17 328s though).

    Re the 308, there are 4 now for sale. A year ago today there were 19...

    My guess many of these cars have not really sold, but just taken off the market, I can't believe all of a sudden everyone wants a 3x8.
     

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