Sorry for answering a question asked of you, Dave, but we don't know for sure why the revs rise, and have said that repeatedly. The only thing we have done is observed that they do. The resulting chorus of ridicule has been pretty poor, to say the least.
not being a jerk, just telling you that it has been written which is why I said prior that you must not have read the thread.
Thank you, Steve. I get the feeling that this is a conversation that will get nowhere without a show and tell of someone driving their car and changing gears while we all watch what's happening with their feet and observing what is happening with the motor and gears. Honestly, though, I think a lot of the arguing here might be about semantics and if someone can clarify if a "blip" refers to just the revs rising because a lower gear is selected for an actual pushing of the throttle and "revving the motor" as it's sometimes referred as, that would go along way into clearing up some of the confusion. For all we know, everyone might be arguing the exact same point.
In an important way, you are probably right. And that is that some people have managed to get completely hung up on the traditional "rev matching" scenario, despite that never having been claimed by any of us. For the last couple of days I have toyed with the idea of recording this (both visual and sound, of course) to put on this thread. The way this thread has developed I will probably end up doing that, but part of me wonders: "Why should I have to? Why can't people just accept what owners of these cars are saying?" I think I know the answer to that question, by the way.
Because owners are saying two exactly opposite things. Or are they saying the exact same thing but in two completely different ways?
I'm sorry, but I think your first sentence is wrong. I think the owners of F1 cars who have reported this phenomenon have been absolutely consistent in what they have said. I think it is "others" who have muddied the waters.
Well, here are owners that say it does blip: And here is an owner who says it doesn't. I'm just trying to figure out what's what here.
What Steve and Dave have posted is so correct and obvious for *ANY* F1 owner that I'm amazed why there's even a debate going on around this. - F1 *DOES* blip (and it is SUPER cool). - How or why: nobody has firmly stated a claim (and I for one couldn't care less about how or why because, as stated above, it's SUPER cool). Period. Are we arguing for the sake of arguing? It becomes tiresome. It's so evident that an F1 blips that I believe that's why owners like Dave ask people to drive first and be stubborn later. I completely understand and second that. Kindest regards, Nuno.
You are getting hung up on the word "blip" in the same way others are about "rev matching". It is just a word. Maybe it's the incorrect word? But the point is, as Nuno has just eloquently put, it DOES happen. Call it what you like, but it does happen.
Disclosure: I'm a manual 355 owner with no F1 driving experience, but have lots of mechanical and software engineering knowledge. I believe the F1 owners are saying that the revs increase in the same fashion as rev-match would, but not to the full extent. For example if I'm in 3rd gear and down shift to 2nd gear, the revs probably need to be raised 1k-1.5k rpm to match the new gear. Instead of revving 1k-1.5k when the paddle is pulled, the system only does a small blip raising the revs only 500rpm or so. It is up to the driver to rev-match otherwise it will just do a small blip. To me this could only be achieved by the ECU regulating the ICV since it has the capability to let a bit more air into the engine. The only way to truly rev-match the engine beyond this is with the trottle pedal. And I agree that the only point of blipping the throttle on downshifts is to rev-match so maybe the 355 F1 system does the best it can without an electronic throttle by opening the ICV for a second when the paddle is pulled.
You are, of course, right. Some of this thread can be summed up as: 355F1 owner: "Hey guys. I've noticed that my car seems to increase the revs during downshifts. Kind of like a "blipping" of the throttle. I have no idea how or why it's happening, but it's cool. Any ideas on why?" Non 355F1 owner: "You are wrong. It is not happening, ok? There must be something wrong with your ears."
Thanks Brenden for posting video. if you do what a say in post#16 in auto sport mode you will hear the car blip the throttle twice and its alot more than 500rpm why i dont know.If its just the clutch catching up to the motor then why does it blip twice.I'm just asking if you might know?
My 2011 M3 SMG does a serious rev match in all gears when down shifting especially with the Dinan software. Sometime with the Dinan exhaust it is embarassing when in parking lots and such as people think you are showing off. It is easily defeated by taking it out of sport mode. My F1 in no way rev matches in that sense. But it does blip, raise rpms whatever when downshifting. Not agressive at all, but something is happening. I enhance this by tapping the gas pedal while pulling the paddle to get a true rev match. But if i just downshift something happens which causes a blip and it can be easily heard with the Tubi.
Given that we now have an overwhelming number of 355F1 owners who are reporting the same thing, are you going to take some of your own advice and admit you are wrong? Or are you in Image Unavailable, Please Login
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