Ferrari releases Alonso from his contract

or things at Ferrari take a 180 turn like Mercedes and suddenly whoever replaces Alo looks like a bloody hero. *cough hamilton cough forgot schumi cough*

 

Yap , much more in front of the pack.....Kimmi and Vettel will make sure of that..

 

In crisis mode. Fighting for 6th place.

 

Well I'll start worrying if they ever stoop to level of having that cretin Mosley giving them a helping hand.....again..

And I am not running for cover..

 

Yeah, Massa v.2 err I mean Kimi has been "the man" this year.

Though Alonso is my favorite current driver, I am a Ferrari fan first and foremost. I would love to see them take a 180 and be at the front again but I am not holding my breath. Alonso has been the only thing keeping this team from Force India status the last few years, whether anyone likes to admit it or not.

 

Ferrari f1 team was a mess under ldm . This looks bad because ferrari leadership is cleaning house every thing looks like a mess before ever thing is cleaned this had to happen after ldm was kicked out of the house . The only way for Ferrari f1 team to look good is on the track but that not possible with the car and Fred talking to media so just shut up till the end of the year

 

You mean Mclaren and Hamilton? After all they were the ones who cheated and got away with it.....

 

Kimi's pace does not worries me a bit, everyone knows the FIAT as the kind of caracteristics he hates, put him in a car he likes (and i'm pretty sure Allison will do so) and he will fly. You can hardly compare 2 drivers with very diferent driving styles when the same car favours one of them. Hell, i femenber Rosberg looking bad besides Prost, simply because he could not drive that mac...now reverse things and imagine prost driving a 94 williams besides Keke, i have no doubt keke would beat him fir and square. Even Gilles had his hands full with the 77 t2, yet he was stellar in the M23.....Look at Vettel this year, do any of you believe Ricci would have beaten him in previous cans? not in a million years.

 

If Button beat Vettel in an inferior(Button's) and gave him a run for his money plenty of times, I no doubt think Ricciardo would beat Vettel in the previous cans. Heck, even Webber beat Vettel several times.

 

And how many WDCs did Webber win?

 

None, BUT, he did beat Vettel on several occasions. Ricciardo has shown that he is way better than Webber against Vettel. You figure it out.

 

Fan Math.
You gotta love it.

 

Again the same story about Vettel winning four (!!!) championships in a row just by chance...The average driver that was beaten regulary by everyone in the grid in far inferior cars like Button (when?).
Now after four years in a row he got a worse car and seems to be less motivated whereas his team mate made a step up and seems to be in seventh heaven. I am curious what will happen with Hamilton, Ricciardo or Alonso when the won four in a row? Well me might never find out for some reasons ;-)

 

Sorry if this has already been touched upon, but what happens to Santander sponsorship? I thought they were paying Alonso's salary.

 

Santander stayed with Mclaren and finished their contract unlike FA. The bank and Alonso are independent entities hence the bank no just leaving Mclaren when FA ran from LH and RD.

The issue is the change in bank leadership. The daughter of the deceased owner has the opportunity to re-shape its dealings with motorsports/sponsorship. No rumors have been posted lately on the direction/potential direction of the new management thus far. It would seem not much could be changing depending on the contracts involved and the given timeframes for them.

 

I did, last November after the GP do Brasil; here's what I wrote then:


Despite his four consecutive WDC's, I am far from persuaded that Sebastien is the 'head-and-shoulders-better' driver that many believe he is. To me it is absolutely clear that for four years he was driving a car that was indeed 'head-and-shoulders' better than any other car on the grid.

Mark Webber, a journeyman middle of the pack driver his entire pre-Red Bull career, suddenly is on the front row almost every race? Webber, a really good guy but only a fair driver, begins in F1 in 2002 age 26, racing for such mediocre teams as Minardi and Jaguar. When he joins Williams he is a little bit better than middle pack but nowhere near a consistent challenger. Then he joins RedBull in 2007 at age 31 still racing just above middle of pack for a couple of years as the car is improving.

Comes 2009 and Sebastien Vettel joins Red Bull and a dramatically improved car. At age 33 after racing in F1 for seven years Mark finally wins his first F1 race, the 2009 German GP and his second, the Brazilian G.P. Comes 2010 and an utterly dominant Red Bull car and what have we in Mark Webber? - four F! wins, five poles (OVER VETTEL!) AND TEN PODIUMS!! He actually led the drivers' championship after Monaco and could have been 2010 World Champion if he had won the last race at Abu Dhabi and Fernando had finished no higher than third! This from a guy who had never been on the podium before!

Sebastien is an outstanding driver, don't misunderstand me, as are at least a half dozen others, Fernando (to me the best driving today), Lewis, Nico, Kimi, maybe Daniel. But since 2009 and until this year F1 has been all about the Red Bull car. So I can do without Seb in my Ferraris.............

 

Here we go, much more realistic...Vettel and a few others are top drivers on very much the same level, none of them is "wiping the floor" with one of the others, the are only separated by margins. Neither was Vettel 'head-and-shoulders-better' driver winning in the RB of the last years nore is Hamilton 'head-and-shoulders-better' driver winning in the Mercedes this year. At the end it depends on who you like most of them to want them sitting in your car. As Alonso is leaving now there are certainly worse choices than taking Vettel as he has experience, is young enough and has some talent. Furthermore he must not necessarily win in the first year as he has already collected a few WDC so he might be patient enough to go all the way with Ferrari back to the top.

 

There has to be some kind if limit on how many times someone can quote themselves...

Seriously.

 

Guys you don't win four consecutive wdcs by being an average driver. I think vettel in the ferrari will surprise many doubters. With seb at the helm they can rebuild and make a more planted car. Their engine will also be better next year.

 

I hope that Ferrari does get its act together soon but if and when they do we'll still hear how its the car not the driver no matter who is behind the wheel.

 

Only way Vettel will do good/better next year is if Ferrari actually build a better car.

 

Luca is now a disgruntled employee. He is in no position to confirm or deny...

 

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Probably any one of at least four drivers could have won in those cars.

 

so if Ferrari go from constantly regressing under Alonso to gradually becoming competitive under Vettel you still won't give Vettel any credit? Man you guys are hard to please. lol