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2014 Monterey Auctions Thread

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  1. synchro

    synchro F1 Veteran

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    GOODING:

    Estimate: $600,000 - $700,000
    Chassis: 00126
    1968 Ferrari Dino 206 GT | Gooding & Company
    1968 206, SN 00126, Yellow with Black interior
    SOLD AT US $748,000

    1974 FERRARI DINO 246 GTS
    Estimate: $425,000 - $500,000
    Chassis: 07976
    Blue
    Just Three Owners from New
    Long-Term Single Family Ownership
    Highly Original and Unrestored Example
    Offered with Books and Tools
    1974 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Gooding & Company
    SOLD: $440,000


    BONHAMS:

    1969 FERRARI DINO 206 GT
    Chassis no. 00338
    Engine no. 00338
    Sold for US$ 572,000 inc. premium
    Bonhams : 1969 FERRARI DINO 206 GTChassis no. 00338Engine no. 00338
    SOLD AT US$572,000 incl buyer's premium

    Lot 220
    1973 FERRARI DINO 246GTS
    Coachwork by Scaglietti - Design by Pininfarina
    Chassis no. 06464
    *Recent nut-and-bolt restoration
    *Exquisite condition in and out
    *Desirable Chairs and Flairs GTS specification
    *Black with Tabacco colored interior from new
    *Delivered new to the US through Modern Classic Motors
    US$ 500,000 - 600,000
    Bonhams : 1973 FERRARI DINO 246GTSChassis no. 06464
    Sold for US$ 539,000 inc. premium

    Lot 265
    1972 FERRARI DINO 246GT
    Coachwork by Scaglietti - Design by Pininfarina
    Chassis no. 03964
    US$ 290,000 - 330,000
    Bonhams : 1972 FERRARI DINO 246GT Chassis no. 03964
    Sold for US$ 319,000 inc. premium


    RM AUCTIONS:

    Lot 141
    1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS
    To be auctioned on Friday, August 15, 2014
    $400,000 - $500,000
    Chassis no. 06158
    1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Monterey 2014 | RM AUCTIONS
    SOLD for $400k +10% = $440k


    RUSSO AND STEELE:

    1974 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS
    Monterey 2014
    Consignment # 9077
    VIN: 246 GTS 07890
    Run # S657 Approx. Run Time Saturday 8:51PM-9:11PM
    Russo and Steele


    MECUM:

    1973 FERRARI DINO 246 GTS
    Color Red
    Interior Black
    VIN/SERIAL 07328
    1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Mecum Auctions

    1973 FERRARI DINO 246 GTS
    Color Yellow
    Interior Beige/black
    VIN/SERIAL 05800
    ESTIMATE: $400,000 - $500,000
    Offered Between 2:00 - 3:00pm
    1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Mecum Auctions


    RICK COLE:

    1974 246GTS
    SN 8454
    Verde Medio Nijiynski with Tan interior, 8.7k miles
    Estimate $395k-$495k
    1974 Ferrari 246 GTS | Rick Cole Auctions
    Total Sale Price: $447,700.00


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  2. simonc

    simonc Formula Junior

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  3. Dino246gts

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  4. freestone

    freestone Formula Junior

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    So what is the value range now for a 246 gts? Not concours, but a top driver condition.
     
  5. dinogts

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    I would think you should be able to come up with a pretty good idea yourself from reading the posts in this thread, and other related threads and the comments running through this and the other threads about condition. My rough range would be $325,000 to $425,000, depending upon what is considered "top driver" condition, color desirability, condition of the mechanicals, what else is on the market at the time, and whether or not the economy has tanked as a result of an exogenous event like an all out war in Ukraine, Iraq, Gaza, or wherever.
     
  6. tx246

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    I am guessing around $225-250k
     
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  8. intrepidcva11

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    Remember, those are ASKING PRICES; see how long the ads remain in FML. Just a pure guess, but I'd bet that 3-4 months from now, if they're not all sold, the asking prices will decline.
     
  9. Dino246gts

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    What does it mean to have "documented by Massini"? It sounds like it's better than Ferrari Classiche. Actually from some recent posts, Ferrari Classiche may mean very little.
     
  10. tx246

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    It means they paid the fee for Massini to assist with records.

    Generally, Massini is unbelievable with his knowledge base and documentation. When It comes to Dino's, it hasn't been his focus, but he does have documentation. I believe Matthias has more information than anyone in pure documentation.

    Ferrari Classiche is for people that don't have much of a desire to research. Some of the cars that have received the certificate really make it easy to be a critic, just search the vintage section.
     
  11. Dino246gts

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    Thanks Shawn.

    Does that mean that if you have your own records you don't need Massini. And the more records you have, the more valuable the car may be to some people?
     
  12. tx246

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    On the V-12 cars, Massini info is something that is always appreciated in verifying numbers and such. Also, he has a pretty good knack of having a good chain of ownership, mileage, etc. it is truly remarkable how thorough he is. I used him for my Ellena, and the thing I appreciated the most was that he was upfront and honest that he had very little on my car beforehand.

    A Dino is a bit different. I don't think Marcel tracks them the same way and keeps detailed records. He definitely does have information on specific cars and I find it valuable.

    Denny Schue did track Dino's for years. In talking with Denny, when he was in bad health, he was looking for someone to carry the torch. I spoke to him at length about doing it, in the end Matthias Urban ( another Ferrari chassis tracker) was willing to computerize the whole records file (it had been computerized but in a very basic format) and revamp a website into what is now the current Dino Register. Urban is still the care taker of the register.

    Matthias Bartz, a German Dino enthusiast, was able to uncover a tremendous data base when searching for information on his cars. He was persistent in asking all the right questions and developing relationships that opened doors to even more information. His knowledge base is very remarkable. He published the Dino Compendium a couple of years back and it is the most thorough Dino book I have ever seen. If you don't have it, you should get it.

    Over all, I think the more information you have on your specific car, the better and there are lots of places to look. When you have done all of the leg work and have lots of back up information, I think a good number of buyers place a premium on that. However, I have also see buyers that just don't care and want to drive the car sitting in front of them.
     
  13. Dino246gts

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    Shawn,

    Thank you again so much. Actually, it sounds like you are an incredible wealth of info, up there with Massini, Schue (rest in peace), Urban and Bartz.

    I have two copies of the Compendium. One for the bookshelf collection, and one to actually use.
     
  14. Pantdino

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    That sounds a little low even for a GT

    Doesn't this car sound like what he is asking?

    1974 FERRARI DINO 246 GTS
    Estimate: $425,000 - $500,000
    Chassis: 07976
    Blue
    Just Three Owners from New
    Long-Term Single Family Ownership
    Highly Original and Unrestored Example
    Offered with Books and Tools
    1974 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Gooding & Company
    SOLD: $440,000
     
  15. tx246

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    I was trying to be a smart donkey.... It wasn't long ago, on F-Chat, we kept talking about whether a Dino was $100k or $150k or $175k or.....
     
  16. synchro

    synchro F1 Veteran

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    Thanks, update: DINOS at the 2014 auctions in MONTEREY:


    GOODING:

    Estimate: $600,000 - $700,000
    Chassis: 00126
    1968 Ferrari Dino 206 GT | Gooding & Company
    1968 206, SN 00126, Yellow with Black interior
    SOLD AT US$748,000

    1974 FERRARI DINO 246 GTS
    Estimate: $425,000 - $500,000
    Chassis: 07976
    Blue
    Just Three Owners from New
    Long-Term Single Family Ownership
    Highly Original and Unrestored Example
    Offered with Books and Tools
    1974 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Gooding & Company
    SOLD: $440,000


    BONHAMS:

    1969 FERRARI DINO 206 GT
    Chassis no. 00338
    Engine no. 00338
    Bonhams : 1969 FERRARI DINO 206 GTChassis no. 00338Engine no. 00338
    SOLD AT US$572,000 incl buyer's premium

    Lot 220
    1973 FERRARI DINO 246GTS
    Coachwork by Scaglietti - Design by Pininfarina
    Chassis no. 06464
    *Recent nut-and-bolt restoration
    *Exquisite condition in and out
    *Desirable Chairs and Flairs GTS specification
    *Black with Tabacco colored interior from new
    *Delivered new to the US through Modern Classic Motors
    US$ 500,000 - 600,000
    Bonhams : 1973 FERRARI DINO 246GTSChassis no. 06464
    Sold for US$539,000 inc. premium

    Lot 265
    1972 FERRARI DINO 246GT
    Coachwork by Scaglietti - Design by Pininfarina
    Chassis no. 03964
    US$ 290,000 - 330,000
    Bonhams : 1972 FERRARI DINO 246GT Chassis no. 03964
    Sold for US$319,000 inc. premium

    Lot 299
    1974 DINO 246GTS Chairs and Flairs
    SN 08280
    Silver with Red interior
    Est $400-475k
    Bonhams : 1974 FERRARI DINO 246GTS Chassis no. 08280
    Bonhams : 1974 FERRARI DINO 246GTS Chassis no. 08280
    Sold for US$390,500 inc. premium


    RM AUCTIONS:

    Lot 141
    1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS
    To be auctioned on Friday, August 15, 2014
    $400,000 - $500,000
    Chassis no. 06158
    1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Monterey 2014 | RM AUCTIONS
    SOLD for $400k +10% = $440k


    RUSSO AND STEELE:

    1974 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS
    Monterey 2014
    Consignment # 9077
    VIN: 246 GTS 07890
    Run # S657 Approx. Run Time Saturday 8:51PM-9:11PM
    Russo and Steele


    MECUM:

    1973 FERRARI DINO 246 GTS
    Color Red
    Interior Black
    VIN/SERIAL 07328
    1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Mecum Auctions

    1973 FERRARI DINO 246 GTS
    Color Yellow
    Interior Beige/black
    VIN/SERIAL 05800
    ESTIMATE: $400,000 - $500,000
    Offered Between 2:00 - 3:00pm
    1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Mecum Auctions


    RICK COLE:

    1974 246GTS
    SN 8454
    Verde Medio Nijiynski with Tan interior, 8.7k miles
    Estimate $395k-$495k
    1974 Ferrari 246 GTS | Rick Cole Auctions
    Total Sale Price: $447,700.00
     

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