Hamilton v Rosberg Thread

Hiya mate, now go and hoover that garage

 

Sorry steve but its gone beyond boring.
You three are having a good time but the rest of us are just tuning out.

 

But this thread is dedicated to just that init

 

Dedicated to your amusement?

But of course.

 

Unfortunately you only want to analyse things if it comes to Hamilton which gives not few the impression that this is very biased.

Sorry but this very far-fetched...I think when you do this with ten other driver pairings you will get a completely different image.
Or let´s take this: Schumacher was very far above Barrichello at Ferrari, Barrichello was slightly closer to Button than to Schumacher during the time at Brawn. Button on the other hand was even to Hamilton in the time at McLaren leaving the conclusion that Schumacher was actually better than Hamilton by your line of thinking...The only problem is now that Schumacher was beaten by Rosberg in the last years so what would be the conclusion of that??? So Rosberg must be better than Hamilton?
You can not compare different drivers because they once drove against the same team mates in completely different cars.

No, it is not because it is the only objectiv view. Look at your own arguments, you valid points different depending on who they are. How do you ever want to get a "rightful winner" if everybody counts points based on your own preference?

No, it was as bad as double points at the last race...Because it values races in a different way of each other. With just 11 results counted what would be the sense of having a guy with 11 good results racing against a guy with just 10 good results in the last race? The former can take whatever risk he wants because it does not count anymore and the later has to step back because he has something to loose???
And if someone has a far superior car that "every monkey can drive" (acc.Lauda) that is 2 seconds faster a lap but unfortunately to innovative to last every race? Do you want to favour him above someone like Alonso who managed to get a Ferrari constantly on the podium in his best seasons?

That is obviously again just your oppinion as this is far from facts as long as you are not the one sitting at the Mercedes conning tower overlooking the datas...
And you seem to reduce bad luck only on DNF...When looking into Hungary all you see is that Hamilton had to come from the back finishing 3rd in front of Rosberg and you easily count that in your 5-2. On the other side you ignore that Hamilton got luck by the safety car when he gained 3 positions when Rosberg lost 3 at the same time. The safety car easily equaled bad luck of both of them on this weekend as without it, Rosberg would have won and Hamilton would have finished 5th or 6th which is not that impressive anymore (which is obviously why you ignore that).

When you read the post above once again it is quit obvious that I was talking about Singapore 2008 and not 2014 as this is the only point you ignored in your reply

 

He is and I am getting tired of the "you are hating Hamilton" bull****...Like a small petulant child when someone doubts that Justin Bieber is the best singer in the world...

 

How lame, never mind, maybe one day you will wake up from that bad dream

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gra3KgJZ5K4]Rowley Birkin QC - Dream - YouTube[/ame]

 

Love this, since there's a similar old rule of trial lawyers when cross-examining an adverse witness: know when to sit down. When you've gotten the damaging answer from the witness, too many inexperienced lawyers ask more more question - and give the witness an opportunity to explain away his damaging answer. Your analogy is wonderful!

 

What's the point of a forum then?

 

That question answers a lot.



Toil reminds me of the stranger who walks into a bar, proceeds to spout opinions, ignores responses and in general assumes a level of unwarranted familiarity.
Some of the regulars like to have fun with the clueless, the rest just find it tiresome and insulting.

 

Personally D I have never used the ignore function, if I ever feel the need to ignore someone, I just would do that regardless without the need of a function button, can't see the point of it, as have been proved by Toil earlier ^ I find it funny, lifes too short for seriousness all the time, ask me how I know.

However I admit I like having a laugh, but on here I give most folk the benefit of doubt, bar one, and I'am sure you know who that is

 

But at least he normally answers on different opinions...He might not get all of your arguments and certainly has his very own way of seeing things but I still think this is better than the one sitting at the bar day in day out "entertaining" people sluring bawdily. And he is getting away with it because people seem to be used to that being some sort of inventory...

 

Taking the inventory of people, particularly strangers, is bad form.

If you're going to play stickball in Canarsie you'd better learn Brooklyn rules.

 

Sorry, I do not understand that, most likely because of my limited language abilities

 

Before you go on offense its best to learn the lay of the land.

 

I do not go more or less on offense then others...And they way you shout into forrest the way it comes out, and he shouted a lot

 

You realize that my comments weren't about you I hope.

As odd as it seems, even here there are (unwritten) rules of behavior and decorum. Its a tough room but some things are still odious.

 

+1 Correctomundo, or put another way, A closed mouth gathers no feet

 

How odd coming from you.

 

Roseberg 9 2nd place finishes 2 dnf's
Hamilton 9 1st place finishes, 4 dnf's
Two ways to end up with almost the same points, but with one driver having twice as many wins.

 

I hope it's decided by the second last race.

 

I hadn't read the whole thread and didn't realize this was a boys' schoolyard scuffle.

Out.

 

Surely you're not inferring that I'm a cause of Hamilton hate?

Any perceived (by you and toil) Hamilton hate would have a lot to do with your and toil's one eyed illogical and never ending arguments proclaiming Hamilton to be the second coming. That's what looking in the mirror meant...YOU'RE the cause.

I rate him marginally, and I do mean marginally, better (whatever that means) than Nico...and even then to me it's clear Mercedes is giving him preference, which helps Hamilton a lot.

Now poor old toil has called Nico a cheat and scared etc etc....but the reality is that Hamilton has never dominated anyone in his career, and that includes Nico. The truly greats have.

Look at Senna v everyone, Schumacher v Irvine, Massa and Rubens, Alonso v Massa and Kimi. Vettel v Webber in the final years etc etc. THAT's domination.

Sorry guys, Lewis is just another seriously gifted driver, just like all the others driving F1, but he's not proven to be the best......yet.

I admire all the drivers, but ya gotta draw the line at what's real!

When Hamilton starts to completely dominate his (rated) team mate, I'll be sure to let you say "I told you so"

 

A question where have I ever said or quoted Hamilton is the 2nd coming, I mean come get real, you like peckin my head, I like pecking your head it works both ways, I'll give you your due, at least you take me on, so I respond, and I respect you for that.

Hate, I know you don't hate any driver, ditto likewise. What I do expect is a good drive/race or driver being recognized for what he has achieved in my opinion, and you do that, the rest is an attempt to wind folk up, which you do tend to do better than me

 

LOL It's just as well, a conversation with you, and somehow, death loses its sting.