Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

Of course both are fast, blindingly fast!! but 918 is faster(918 proved it many times)
And the video you mean is not count because it is not a real test (you can see easily 918 is not in Hot Lap mode) you can compare the acceleration figures of this auto car test against the numbers of that poor video, then you understand the trust!!

 

It doesn't state that the p1 tires were changed. Regarding the tires there's a stickier tire that is available for the p1 (tropheo r). I believe no tests have been made with this tire yet. Lap times will only get faster for the mclaren

 

Nor did I say they were. It just seems a strange admission that the 918's tyres weren't changed in any of the tests.

 

at this point, the P1 needs the Trofeo R's to keep up with 918. Kinda funny, how Porsche flipped the script on Mac. Guess what, new 'track' bias Michelins are also coming for 918 and GT3 RS. The replacement to the 'old' track bias 'Cup' semi slick. 918 lap times will get even quicker, as will standing start acceleration and braking numbers...

 

In every full battery mag test, tires are generally changed due to abuse from track test portion, depending on condition they are in. However, 918 good enough to outperform P1 even on 1 set of tires. the car is just a monster of a performer. The wet track section is what raises eyebrows. Was that test done after all the other ones? Worn tires? Need more details from Autocar to know for sure.

 

LOL.. so we can conlude that when P1's bein faster that doesn't count, and 918 count as triple.

 

Semi slicks won't make the 918 faster in the wet

 

No, the article didn't say anything about the P1 changing to a new set of tires, but knowing Mclaren, they always sent a full support team (ie. "army of engineers and advisory racing drivers and tyre pumpers..." this quote is taken directly from Autocar inferring to the practice done by Ferrari and Mclaren in the past). Granted, this game was started by Ferrari and Mclaren had to follow suite because they didn't want to leave anything on the table.

Porsche, on the other hand, never sent anyone on these magazine tests. In this particular Autocar test, Porsche asked Autocar and sent just 1 technician to the test. In a Porsche-approved methodology (LOL), the technician didn't even do anything except put his hands on the rubber and feel the temperature.

A direct quote from Autocar's tester Matt Prior:
"Gotta love Porsche's confidence. No massive support team for the track activity. Just a technician who puts his hands casually on the tires to see that they're not overheating. And on one set of rubber, the 918 blows everything else away."

 

LOL, you are right! But your Trofeo R will for sure make the P1 slower on a wet track as well.

 

No, you are right. 1 win for the P1 (0-200mph drag race)....plus the infamous Nurburgring lap time set by the P1, so that makes it 2 wins according to some people?

 

They print this, but they publish a 0-200 video on YouTube that favors the P1.

Go figure.

 

You forgot the wet track win !

Oh , I forgot that doesn't count because Mclaren sent invisible goblins to the test to make sure the car had an advantage.

 

Truly remarkable.

 

Wow!!! 668 pages! After reading most of the pages I really have to chime in as if you look at all the posts any reasonable person would come up with the following summary:

1) Porsche fans argue with facts that can be backed up.
2) McLaren fans argue with facts that can't be backed up.
3) Ferrari fans are smart enough not to do the same dumb mistakes as the McLaren fans.

If you look at all the facts that can be verified it definitely shows the 918 to be the faster car. First, I love all 3 of these hyper cars but the P1 fanboys are really making themselves look dumb (at least with the latest evidence the smarter P1 fanboys are keeping quiet - it's only the non-scientific delusional ones that are still posting ridiculous posts and bringing up past non-sensible arguments). Why continue arguing that the P1 is faster? The ones that make me laugh are the ones holding onto the top speed part which the P1 definitely has over the 918 and that on a longer racetrack the P1 will win; guess what, on any real racetrack (unless it's a Nascar oval) the P1 will not be able to beat the 918 as it is only at the upper velocities that the P1 is faster. On a racetrack you are below that upper limit for more of the time which then favours the 918; how many tracks can you really go over 180mph for sustained periods of time? Why did the 918 beat the P1 at the Nurburgring? Because you spend more time below 180mph. Just look at it scientifically and based on all verified data the 918 will always beat the P1 on any real race track (I don't consider driving in circles to be the top of racing otherwise F1 would be doing this as well). The 918 is faster than the P1 in at least 82.9% in terms of speed (918 is faster up to 180mph which means 180mph/217mph = 82.9%) and beats it 100% of the time in mechanical grip related performance aspects (braking, slow and medium speed cornering) so based on this the 918 will always win; this is why the Porsche engineers are so confident. Ferrari at least didn't put their foot in their mouth so I applaud them and their fans for not making ridiculous claims or arguments. I love the P1 but the fanboys are an embarassment because they use ridiculous claims and arguments that when broken down make them look bad. The P1 is a great car and I love it the same as the 918 and the LF but I'm not delusional; the P1 and LF are probably more desirable but faster that the 918 they are not. The sign of a truly great person or company is when he/she/they can recognize when someone else is better; only when you accept this will you improve, anything else means you're just fooling yourself.

 

Nah, the P1 is faster cause McLaren said so. That's the 'FACT'.

Nothing else will dispute that.

Pointless argument. Right now they are already onto the faster lap times in the wet, AFTER the faster top speed and long drag race, they are sitting on 3-0 right now.

 

+1 - excellent post...... Look the P1 is just faster bcos bcos well bcos it just is, now I am going to throw you and my toys outta my sandpit wah wah wah.

 

Why did they even put a gearbox in the 918? Couldn't they just mix low rpm electric torque and high rpm combustion engine in one gear only and save a lot of weight?

 

Congrats to you for your understanding, The most ridiculous claim of Mclaren fan boys is about Nurburgring, As all people know that the 918 is the one and only car for dipping below the magical seven minute barrier!

 

Another victory for 918, truly remarkable one!!
Congrats!

 

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Oh look! Its Jennifer Clarkson! Has anyone posted the results with the lap times?

 

LOL, from Jennifer himself!

 

Lol at the cultists grabbing on for dear life at the wet track "win" . The thing is on that circuit over a second is a massive deficit for the dry time .
All that in a spider with burn eater stereo etc etc


Always better to under promise and over deliver Ron . Always .

 

Ferrari fan.
Porsche has had and still having much to improve.
E-motor vmax, rear ws control arms, traction and lateral grip - cause its useless in the wet. -see Autocar test.
You are fighting with mclaren which is a relatively small company and now started making road cars. Ferrari is on the other planet already. You cannot even really match it. Maybe in low speed acceleration in 7th gear. Ferrari is all above the 918 vs p1 war.

 

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