Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

Interesting.

For comparison here's what we offer our customers. After the race they can road convert and drive home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC_svTgzK54#t=74

 

I love Ferrari but again I base things on facts and in terms of technology Porsche is ahead (compare innovations such as first hybrid vehicle, first dual clutch, etc...), in terms of company size they are much larger but does that mean I think less of Ferrari? Driving a Ferrari is an experience; the noises are pure music, even the limitations in practicality add to it in a positive manner, but most notably is that it doesn't matter if it is the fastest or the most technically advanced as it'll still attract the most attention (desire). The Porsche on the other hand is my reliable one and does amazing things (eats Gallardos) but does not turn heads like the Ferrari. Bottom line, all 3 are amazing vehicles, just don't make statements which are not true.

 

McLaren = Hot girl who tells you she's the best you'll ever have.

Porsche = Hot girl who you know is the best you've ever had.

Ferrari = Hot girl who is so hot you don't care how she performs!

 

Because cutting your car in half and gluing it back together upon arrival and departure is so much easier than getting in a different car.

Nevertheless, very impressive.

 

Off topic:

More info about Koenigsegg One:1

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enfjxsFGsn8]Christian von Koenigsegg interview | INSIDE evo - YouTube[/ame]

 

LOL, Spot on !!

Luque

 

In the old days you could simply drive to the track, tape the headlights, race, pull off the tape and drive home. Like many things it's now a bit more complicated but this way you can drive to the track in a road legal car with a road legal engine, owner convert, race a real race vs. P1 GTR program, convert back and drive home. I've enjoyed many, many road miles in retired race cars and I hope a few customers will too. Those who like what McLaren's P1 GTR program offers better know where to go.

 

Different people want different things. Some want what the McLaren GTR program offers. Some want to legally drive a car that really raced in a major endurance race on the road when her racing days are over and I want to drive a road legal car form our factory in Turino to Le Mans, convert in the Box, race for 24, convert back to road legal configuration and drive to Paris for Dinner. Different Strokes for different Folks.

They have customers and so do we. The costs for ours, base car/spares package/Full test program/ 3 Hour race/6 Hour race/24 Hour race and road conversion is similar to McLaren's GTR base price and 10 track day events. Choice is good.

 

Only problem, if you crash or break something during the race, you don't even get dinner.
Joking

 

The other difference being P1 GTR=Track car, SCG 003=Race car.

 

True but some times you just have to take a chance. After many track miles during the day at CERAM by me Rene Arnoux, and many Journalists I was still able to drive Ferrari P 4/5 by Pininfarina into Paris for dinner.
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What statements? AutoCar says that porsche is faster but slower (in the wet), that is better but worse (traction and lateral grip)
. P1 on the other hand is slower on dry track but faster accelerates from 100 mph upwards. Porsche is not a holy cow, it had some issues even with latest 918. And was quiet about its recall in June.

 

Those were the times that legends were born. Like Contemporary cowboys.
Amateur racing has this passion still, but best cars for that racing are simple and not expensive at all. Then you may live your daily life and, at the same time, be a racer on the track.

 

Fanboy cultists are fantastic. Your beloved end all be all P1 got destroyed AGAIN, and all that's left to hang on to is dissing 918 wet track performance? Useless in the wet? Particulars have yet to be shown as to what/why the wet track result was as such. I'm guessing using only one set of tires for the entire shindig had something to do with it. Other publications have shown that 918 is not slower, and far from useless, in wet conditions. In every sense, this is called grasping at straws...NO, it is grasping a single straw. Ouch.

 

Yep. in all 3 tests, EVO, TG, and now Autocar, the gaps aren't even close. 1 sec or more at 3 different tracks. 918 is just a monster. We're not talking about .2 or .3 seconds here, these are matter of fact BEATDOWNS! So much for '918 won't stand a chance...it's underpowered, and much too heavy...918 won't see which way P1 went...etc, etc, blah blah blah'.

But wait, P1 is faster in a 1mile drag race! It's the best! Or, 'they need to use better drivers to reach maximum ability of P1, P1 requires time and familiarity to go fastest possible..if you use driver like F1 driver, the P1 will beat 918...' etc, etc, etc.... <sarcasm>

 

true car fans, and peeps that love engineering/technology are thrilled that there is double O three. Unique ownership prospect for those with a spare 3 or 4 mil sitting around Personally, I can't wait to see the finished product. Even more so than P4/5C, which was wicked beyond anything back in the day.

 

Thank you to all (Timm...y, hootan, Luque) for the nice feedback! To those who have responded with "selective" quotes and facts; thank you for confirming that there are 2 types of P1 fans (smart ones and d__b ones).

The McLaren F1 was "The Car" at that time in that it really was the best back then; the P1 however just didn't live up to the wild claims and those who repeatedly try to state otherwise with unsubstantiated facts and worse putting down the competition are simply making McLaren look like sore losers. The P1 is a great car in other aspects but it isn't what Ron buddy claimed it would be. Porsche simply built a car and allowed it to do its own "talking". Ferrari was smart in that it continued to do what it does best, build cars that are the most desirable.

 

With a Better Quality

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Dont be pathetic. The p918 vs p1 part in this thread is probably the most pathetic discussion in automotive history :-D, supported by weird journalism,claims,and some strange not fully revealed yet tests.
Porsche has great technology as you say but then why was trying to underrate 918? because wasnt sure if it will work.
When you are sure you tell the numbers as they are. Simple. McLaren was critisized before so I dont want to repeat p1's marketing sins :-D. So let's leave that fight for the second place for good.
If 918 had no downsides, it could be a perfect car, with no question. But many people dont like it from the concept. That differs further craftsmanship from masterpiece.

 

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Still not sold out. It should have taken the market by a storm.
Good articles should help this now. Only the weissach livery is strange :-D. It looks better in silver grey.

 

im not big fan of the salzburg stripes on the 918

i like the martini though, i saw a white wp 918 in paris 2 weeks with the martini graphics, it looked sweet. Does anybody know if they can be retrofitted by the dealer?

 

Have you been experimenting with the expected conversion times yet Jim?

How many crew are needed to assist in the process, etc and will you be offering full trackside support, etc?

I can't wait to see what you guys have built.