Ferrari fined $3.5 million for failing to report three fatalities

And this;

'Consumer Reports recently named Fiat Chrysler brands four of the least reliable car brands based on a report released Monday.'

OK thats it for Ferrari.
Last one out the door turn off the lights.

 

stupid rule. I wouldn't pay.

 

If people understood how much all of this absurd regulation was costing them, there would be another revolution in the United States.

But since the government controls the schools too, they can keep 'em nice and dumb.

 

... the arrogance, masters of the universe mentality, sad but true, compliance is most certainly not Ferrari's strong suit:

Ferrari Fined $3.5 Million by the NHTSA - autoevolution

So, what? Big deal. A few people die. Right? Because after all, it is Ferrari, the NHTSA should be pressured by the policy community, to look the other way - asj.

 

same story in nyt business section today but no details. how many deaths, injuries and where? how did it happen and when? what model Ferrari?

GM got a $35m fine and Hyundai $17.5m for same issues

 

... any questions, ask to speak to Troy:

http://www.nhtsa.gov/About+NHTSA/Press+Releases/2014/NHTSA+Fines+Ferrari+$3.5+Million+for+Failing+to+Submit+Early+Warning+Reports

NHTSA 43-14
Friday, October 31, 2014
Contact: Troy Green
Tel: (202) 366-9550

http://www.nhtsa.gov/staticfiles/communications/pdf/2014-10-31-Ferrari-Consent-Order.pdf

 

Already being discussed here: https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/ferrari-discussion-not-model-specific-sponsored-algar-ferrari/466321-ferrari-fined-%243-5-million-failing-report-three-fatalities.html

 

Who let you back in? Done your time already? Obviously you didn't learn anything from your ban here, since your first post since your ban expiring is the same old antagonistic BS. I guess you're not capable of figuring out that the style of posting that got you banned last time is not welcome here? Are you planning to keep posting antagonistic BS until you get banned again?

Oh well, carry on. Make it quick this time, so you can be permanently banned and the rest of us don't have to put up with your BS for very long.

 

While I am a libertarian for the most part and believe the market can solve most problems with consumer products through lawsuits, ect..., I do believe the government has a place in consumer safety, especially for complex products like automobiles where the consumer could never be able to determine if a product is safe or not. That's why NHTSB safety regulations are a good thing for us all. I want all the cars me and my family own and/or ride in to meet the safety NHTSB requirements.

 

So why did Ferrari not make the filings on time?

 

No puppy in the tussle but isn't 3.5 million chump change for a profitable car company like Ferrari?

 

I found some details of the three incidents at the link below, but not specifics about the "defects"

Ferrari Agrees to $3.5 Million U.S. Fine on Death Reports - Bloomberg

 

Yup.

 

who reports car fatalities back to the manufacturer... how does a manufacturer get the information about what happens to their vehicles and collateral damage to the vehicle's occupants after an incident which could come much later after an incident... short of legal action against a manufacturer how is a manufacturer to know what happens... it should be the agency investigating an incident that tracks and informs a manufacturer for comment

 

ASJoseph,

As you can see, the caustic and sarcastic posting style that earned your ban is not winning you any friends either. I suggest that a more amicable and less antagonistic approach would make for a wiser (and longer lived) return to the forum.

All the best,
Andrew

 

Not a big regulation guy either but government requirements for auto safety have saved a lot of lives. If we still had 1958 safety with 2014 performance, traffic and annual passenger miles our highway death rate would be horrific.

 

It has only been since 2000. Every law enforcement agency in the nation has to make annual reports to Uncle Sam. I bet they just added to the list reporting to auto manufacturers injury accidents and fatalities. The feds love to dream up non-compensated responsibilities.

 

I bet it is important as a first step. I suspect the fines and punishment goes up like a bell curve for subsequent infractions.

 

Completely with you and Rifledriver on this. It seems like this was not some nefarious plot by Ferrari but some kind of oversight. They will pay the fine and learn from it. I do think Ferrari takes driver safety seriously but the law is what it is.

 

Without those regulations, we'd have a lot more injuries and fatalities. Just remember what ford did with the Pinto, they hid the defects. GM just tried the same thing with their ignition faults. This fine is a good thing. Probably not enough to make them comply though. Maybe increase it depending on the companies profits. Might then be enough to ensure compliance.

Art

 

Seems like a PERFECT chance for someone to get a job with Ferrari.

Simple letter to them:

Dear Ferrari,

You just spent 3.5 million US dollars in fines for failing to keep your quarterly filings/reports up to date.

I hereby offer my services, to be compensated at a rate of $50,000 annually. For that compensation, I will ensure that any similarly required filings will be turned in accurately and on time to the appropriate agencies or offices of the US Government. I will maintain an "errors and omissions" insurance policy, with Ferrari as a "named insured" at or above the dollar value of this current fine.

Sincerely, rabid lifetime tifosi who would KILL to have a job "at" Ferrari.

Am I completely wrong in thinking someone presenting an offer along these lines (albeit, better thought through and worded) could not only "get a job," but also save Ferrari a whole lot of grief?