I do not think that this is mainly because of the down at RB but because now is the opportunity. I think that the move from Vettel to Ferrari was designated for 2016 anyway when his own contract would have ended, I think it was just antedated because Alonso wanted to leave. I said years ago that Vettel does need to drive for Ferrari one day if he ever wants to step out of the shadow of Schumacher (at least here in Germany) so it was just a question of time. I do not think that anyone would expect a similar story of success as Schumacher had but even one WDC would be enough for him to get recognition. By the way: Schumacher is getting a "Bambi"-award this evening and the family asked for Sebastian doing the laudatory speech, I think that shows the relation between them.
We can't ban him, its too entertaining. It's like all those years ago when Howard Stern first came about " I want to see what he'll say next"
I never listened to that prick either!.... Sorry, but I beg to differ here. To me at least, and I guess I'm just an old fart, there's *nothing*, zero, nada, "entertaining" about his continuing nonsense. All it's doing is filling pretty much every thread with BS. If it wasn't for a few others (which I now have to search out) here I for one would be long gone. Cheers, Ian
So to summarise: I posted my opinions for next year. I said which teams I think will be strong and which won't be. I also said if Mclaren have a good engine they would've been able to convince alonso to sign and show him all they can. Singoff then noted how since he's a ferrari driver they would have to Be guarded in what info they tell him. Fair enough point which I agreed with. I doubt this would preclude them from telling him pure facts; maybe the output of the engine and other pertinent data that doesn't reveal methods or design techniques. The public have purportedly been told that the f15t is a dog in terms of output and aerodynamics and no secrets were shared there. Then I get attacked from all sides by people calling me an idiot posting crap and for posting my own opinion. Which is ironic because this entire thread is predicated on speculation and EVERYBODY is posting based on opinion or on RUMOURS they have heard. I get attacked Simply because the post is BY me rather than because of the content. The discussion then switched somehow to kimi raikkonnen. With people Defending him and saying he is a great diver because he SHOUDLVE won a championship with mclaren and that he did well against grrosjean the last 2 years and therefore isn't past it. Oh and the age old excuse that this years car doesn't suit him. I pointed out how in 2012 grrosjean dnfed 9-10 times and kimi did not DNF once. Secondly, in 2013 kimi finished only 2 places ahead of the average rated grosjean. I noted how alonso dominated grrosjean to a much higher degree during tbeir time Together as team mates (exactly 7 races where alonso scored 34 points to grosjeans zero). I was then attacked and called illogical but nobody could provide a single reason as to why. Apparently because grrosjean was a rookie it didn't count. Ironically by making such arbitrary qualifications they were being the illogical ones. But at least singoff was trying here...most make baseless statements and insult me but go no further in order to save themselves from public embarrassment. Tethering the parameters of the debate to suit your argument is jllogical. For simiplicities sake; let's say a rookie driver races all 20 races in a season and all these performances are discounted and we start evaluating him from race 1 next season. The difference between race 20 of season 1 and race 1 of season 2 is merely one race of experience. But at this arbitrary point he's allowed to be judged. Race results at the cusp of the arbitrary line are discounted but the moment he hits season 2 it's allowed despite the difference in experience between the two being but a single race. This is essentially a 'threshold' argument. For the more dense members of this forum I will spell it out in a simpler way. Unfortunately in some walks of life creating arbitrary lines are unavoidable. Picture a scenario where a student who scores 50% passes a course but one who scores 49% fails and must resit. The comparative knowledge of the 2 students is very similar but the consequences are vastly different. One moves on to the next year whereas one must waste an entire year resitting the paper. In terms of f1 no data is discounted. All data is relevant. Perhaps my example could be critiqued because the sample size is small. But to simply wipe the alonso v grrosjean data away completely because it doesn't suit your argument is fundamentally flawed. F1 selectors with vast experience deemed grrosjean ready to race in f1 but guys on a forum tell me I can't compare. Inherent in their argument is the false assumption that a driver performs worse in their rookie year and improves as time goes on. It's not linear like that. Some drivers performed superbly in their rookie Year (hamilton) and others as time go on get much worse ( raikkonnen). As such, you can't just discount data like that. Sure you can find positive points to support your own argument (as I do) but if you're gonna call someone else's arguments stupid and illogical you better have valid reasons for it (as I always do). In terms of the personal attacks. The old adage 'those who are insecure about their own lives usually bully others' holds true here. I don't need to respond. I only post about hamilton in the designated thread and also in the race thread. The times discussion of hamilton enters other threads is because somebody (usually not me) brought it up. I'm here because I love f1. I like to read the latest news articles people conveniently find and post here and the insightful posts of some users (but hey the hamilton thread has been turned into a thread about coffee now). I'm not here to make friends (contrary to bas's assertion; however if I had no friends in real life I would act like he does and be an opinionless drone who agrees with the consensus in an attempt to make people like me). Put me on ignore for all I care. I still post what I want and read what I want. I'm here for f1 which amazes a lot of you who are simply here for each others company lol. I can exist quite happily on a forum where nobody likes me because I'm here for the sport. Just note that most of the time I keep to myself and post my own views and get attacked for doing so. If you people changed your attitudes I wouldn't have to post the way I do.
Toil, two things (I am not quoting because some people do not want that). 1.) You ask to be respected for your opinion and your posts but on the other side you do not even have enough respect to look who you are replying to. I do not take this personal (because it is actually of no importance) but it is very disrespectfull both in real life and even here if you do not even use the right name... 2.) You are really obsessed by your drivers-comparisations. You once mentioned that one has to look into every single race to judge but then you use pure statistics to rate drivers on the other hand. You mentioned that Hamilton was not as good last year because it was his first year at Mercedes and that a new team means a settling-in-period even for a good driver like Hamilton. On the other side you think it is no point when someone mentions that Grosjean never drove a single race before he was installed in the middle of a season against a two times WDC... One can debate whether Raikkonen is as good and as motivated compared to his heydays but it is obvious that it is very much about the car and whether it suits you to get the best out of it. Both Raikkonen and Vettel are a good proof for that this year. A further point against your comparisation as you can not rate drivers over different seasons and different cars... To really judge them you have to be insider, something you are apparently not. So you opinion is not worth more or less than anyone elses, not to mention it is far away from facts. That said I will not comment any more drivers comparisations from you as it is obviously a waste of time.
1. My apologies I will get your name right from now on. Tbh I actually do try type "Singhof" but my phone autocorrect changes it for me and I don't go back to edit it 2. I believe I have always maintained that the statistics are a starting point and that analysis is always warranted. Statistics provide a good launch point for discussion. With regard to hamilton; I said "perhaps" that could be a reason when we were trying to theorise why he is doing much better against rosberg this year. Other reasons we mooted were rosbergs mental strength declining ect. I would never simply assert it to be 100% fact like kimi fans do when they say the car doesn't suit him. Because of course then I would just be another idiot. Now I'm not sure if it were you or the others who was calling me an idiot. Probably that oaf malauf and co. People act like every time I speak I say the most stupid thing they've ever heard. It's all quite logical. My overall point is it's unfair to compeltely discount the alonso v grosjean comparison. If they were team mates again today I bet the situation would go down just as it did back then. Comparisons are usually replicable - doubt there has ever been a case where someone got flogged by a team mate and then a number of years later found themselves with the same team mate and suddenly are beating them. Defending kimi is a thankless job. People still do it though. Beating grosjean by the Margin he did means nothing. Grosjean is resoundingly average and barely edged out maldanado who nobody here holds in high regard.
Mate you do leave yourself wide open sometimes, with spelling errors, ie Kimi is a good diver hahahaha.. love it, well he was, when he dived off a boat in Monaco... pissed up ..
Ooh did I say diver? Where is it I'll edit lol. I type on my phone and sometimes i miss letters or randomly start a new line by mistake. I'm sure nobody doubts that I can spell the word "driver".
It's your approach. You're young and it shows. You stated you read posts from your younger self and how immature and arrogant you were. From our standpoint your still immature and arrogant. You don't listen to anyone else's opinion and you use big words to make yourself sound smarter. It doesn't come off as confident and smart it comes off as pompous and arrogant which doesn't win any friends in this forum. There are members here that make more in a week than I do in a month and you wouldn't be able to tell them from the average blue collar guy. You come off as ******. Learn a few lessons in humility and you might get your point across better.
I'm what you call a keyboard warrior. Wouldn't even think of being even slightly rude or confrontational in person. But people can get away with directly insulting me on here. Just read what bas wrote. Last time I so much as swore I got an infraction (just a warning and some points off or something). I have to be creative about the ways I piss people off.
The problem is as much as you want to make us pray to Hamilton, as much many here would be happy to have you. It seems as we are resisting to take up your religion you are resisting to move on. Complete deadlock. If you'd limit yourself to post less than 100 times your day then it would be much more tolerable. You are eager to partake in any conversation all the time. This makes you so cancerous, you spread and spread and become unbearable. Limit yourself to 10 posts per week and you'll notice much less **** will reflect back to you. Then you'd become one of many that voice their opinion here and a debate would simply move on. A debate is not won by the person that posts the most especially not online. When you'll come back here in 5 years you'll see that you were a destructive, arrogant and self-centered member. You turn every thread to suit your agenda. That is incredibly disrespectful to the other hundrets of members here. And above all you get terribly defensive and play the big victim. Well, then maybe take the hint and if you can't behave, move on. This board existed very well before you came. Why you think you can hijack the entire place and terrra-craft it according to your needs is beyond me. How disrespectful of what other people have created can one be? You are. period.
That's all I have for "solid" news for today for the time being: the italian press announces that McLaren pockets will be so squeezed by the 35 millions euros a year (sorry to out brit friends for using an inappropriate currency...) that Magnussen could be showed the door with his pal Jenson Button, to be replaced by Sainz Jr, this to find the cash to pay Alonso... BUT it is the italian press... http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/43717/f1-sainz-jr-sulla-mclaren-se-arrivera-la-telefonica Rgds
Got to feel for Magnussen IMO. Do hope he gets to stay (despite his mistakes and over exuberance at times, and his crashes into Kimi ), as he has a lot of talent. Look what Grosjean did after a year of ****ing up, after the off season he matured and did quite well the next season.
This is spanish BS, no way sainz is foing to Mac, he'll be very, very lucky if he gets the seat besides Verstappen....i for once hope Vergne will keep it, he deserves it.
Yes, you are correct. Just like all of the other "rumors' threads. Except, this one does have Autosport, even Autoweek supporting these so called rumors. Apparently, the peanut gallery here has more knowledge and credibility than Autosport about the daily activities in F1.? I guess that means all of the comments in the last few years "I did not see it in Autosport, so until then I will not believe it" were misinterpreted.
