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The Michael Schumacher Career/Injury/Recovery Thread

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  1. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I asked one of the top surgeons, that worked on my dome, he said from the onset it wasn't a good sign, he was in an induced coma for the length he was...:eek:
     
  2. Fast_ian

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    :)

    How very PC!

    With apologies to the mods, I wonder if 'scheisse' gets caught by the filter?..... ;)

    Godspeed Michael,
    Ian
     
  3. tifosi12

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    Bild is boulevard press, no doubt.

    However that doesn't mean they can't get their story straight on certain topics. And it seems particularly in this case they had some good inside information. So to generally disbelieve anything they write is just as naive as to believe everything.
     
  4. texasmr2

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    I miss him and he would be a great post-race interviewer.
     
  5. Fast_ian

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    While possible, and we certainly don't know if he's at all responsive, I believe there are some pretty well established tests in this area;

    Doc/Corinna; "is your name John? Blink once for yes, twice for no" type stuff.

    *If*, and again as I said before it's a huge if, he can answer such questions correctly;

    #1 - He's not a 'vegetable'. He's in very bad shape, but not a vegetable. (I'm growing to hate that term. :( )
    #2 - There's a little, albeit tiny, bit of hope.
    #3 - Most importantly, they're following his wishes - *If* he's 'functioning' that way.

    I really hope he's somehow told them, one way or another, "I'm still fighting this BS!" Then, the move home makes some sense.

    Godspeed Michael,
    Ian
     
  6. tifosi12

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    Agreed on all those ifs.


    BTW: I don't believe he is a vegetable (terrible term). If he was they would have likely pulled the plug. The reports indicate a semi conscious state. Which is the real dilemma as well as grounds for a tiny bit of hope.
     
  7. kraftwerk

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    Scary ***** whatever the case ...he is in Gods hands..
     
  8. Drive550PFB

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    If one were to build an intensive care room onto their house, it could be done. This area would not need to be much bigger than a bedroom. And if it were truly a state of the art intensive care center, with all the machines and the 24 hour care, it is EASY to see how this could cost $100K per week.
     
  9. VisualHomage

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    Yes.

    And if the aerial shots of the property showing the new construction is actually the alleged at-home facility then it is much larger than only a bedroom. The care extends beyond the scope of only one or two people. Medical expenses are such that if you breathe you are charged for the air by the minute.
     
  10. Bas

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    I would imagine there are facilities for staff as well, including their own ''apartments'' on the plot.
     
  11. P.Singhof

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    Nobody said that everything in BILD is wrong but everybody knows BILD has the tendency to blow up things. Especially when it comes up to numbers I would not believe it unless I read something similar somewhere else...
    F.e. if BILD should be aware that Schumachers are spending much money on Doctors they will not just write that Schumachers spend money on doctors but they will say "Schumachers are spending 100k a week on doctors" because it sounds better. As I doubt that their "source" has checked the bills I would take that with caution.
    My problem with BILD is: as most of their reports are polemic with big headlines you can not trust in that as you never know whether they are actually right or not, there are much more reliable sources. Just as "Stern" lost their reputation on a long term by "finding Hitlers diaries"...It does not mean that they are wrong but you could never be certain...Others might be wrong as well but they might have a much better "hit ratio"...
     
  12. VisualHomage

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    Yes. And to staff even a 24hr. skeleton crew in such a fashion must be "beyond the beyond." Pondering it, I'm glad there are no photos. I don't want to see Michael in such an undignified state. It's too sad.
     
  13. VisualHomage

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    This is the vague and seemingly pointless charade going on. Excerpt from the article:

    "“He can’t speak.

    “Like me, he is in a wheelchair, paralyzed.

    “He has memory problems and speech problems.”

    According to the Mirror, Schumacher spokesperson, Sabine Kehm, “said Streiff’s comments were ‘his opinions’”

    MS being paralyzed and not being able to speak is an opinion? How can that be an opinion? He either resembles these conditions or he doesn't. How is this "opinion?"

    See how ridiculous this is? Why can't it just be said for what it really is? Otherwise it is like saying "Gravity is my opinion. It may be working at your house but not necessarily at my house. It is your opinion. You haven't been to my house."
     
  14. Bas

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    We don't know the state. All we have is some people saying this, some saying that, others making an opinion based on hearsay and their experience of someone they knew who also was in a coma and thinking this is exactly the same situation.

    It's not what you want in this case, it's his families wishes and if there was no hope whatsoever, they wouldn't hold on IMO.
     
  15. texasmr2

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    This guy ^^^^^^!
     
  16. Fast_ian

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    *If*, and as always, it's a huge if, what he is saying here is true, I'd say that's some huge progress compared to the 'general' diagnosis here of him being a vegetable and that Corinna is cruel for keeping the plug in!

    Even a Steven Hawking style chair would mean he's out of bed and somewhat 'functional'.

    Again, I'm no doc, but seems to me some 'memory & speech problems' would be the least of Corinna's worries right now!

    It would sure be appreciated if Sabine would give us an update, but just looking back over the past couple of pages here goes a long way to explaining why she's not doing that. :(

    Godspeed Michael,
    Ian
     
  17. VisualHomage

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    But realize the extent of the charade of it. Again:

    “He can’t speak.

    “Like me, he is in a wheelchair, paralyzed.

    “He has memory problems and speech problems.”
    ------

    First it says "He can't speak." Then it says "He has memory problems and speech problems." Oh? Wouldn't you think that if he "can't speak" that he has speech problems? This news report is either fabricated (a lie which is fraud) or it is translated from a non-English speaking person by another non-English speaking person.

    Then it says in reaction to the statements that these are "opinions." But such a reply is nonsensical. You can either speak or you cannot. How can that be an opinion? How is being paralyzed or not an opinion? Paralysis is black and white. It's not an opinion if one is paralyzed.

    What is known from aerial spy photography is that an at-home facility of some kind has been built. And that is an extreme measure to take--an extraordinary measure that virtually nobody would ever do. So the situation must be extreme regardless of what appears in the press. You don't build an at-home medical facility for someone if everything is ok.
     
  18. NürScud

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  19. Bas

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    Another thing is that Sabine Kehm has said that Streiff hasn't even been in contact, so that lables all this arguing rather pointless.

    Streiff also said that Bianchi will still be in a coma for a long time (comments this morning) yet today he emerged out of it (albeit still unconsious, but breathing by himself).

    As Kehm said: ''his opinion''.
     
  20. Doug Nye

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    Both these fine sportsmen - Schumacher and Bianchi - are now desperately badly damaged. Please just cut their families some slack, treat any news with compassion - and discretion - and hope that genuine relief for all most closely concerned with them is not too long in coming.

    DCN
     
  21. tifosi12

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    We haven't seen him in almost a year and he is apparently given 24/7 care.

    And we heard a bunch of medical reports first hand from his doctors and Kehm (although I rather believe a medical than a spin doctor).

    So saying "we don't know the state" is a simplification to the point of denial.

    What we really don't know are the finer details as in how cognitive he is.
     
  22. VIZSLA

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    Thank you Doug.

    It's the only real kindness that we can do for Michael and his family.
     
  23. Fast_ian

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    Fix't. ;)

    And agreed of course.

    Godspeed Michael, Forza Jules!
    Ian
     
  24. VIZSLA

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    Thanks Ian.
     

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