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2014 F1 ETIHAD AIRWAYS ABU DHABI GRAND PRIX: QUALIFYING ***SPOILERS***

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  1. maulaf

    maulaf Formula 3

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    [\toil mode on] If Rosberg wouldn't keep cracking under the immense pressure he'd bin Ham by a second clear each qualifying. [\toil mode off]
     
  2. P.Singhof

    P.Singhof F1 Rookie

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    That was not the question, the question was whether he tried or not and I say yes he tried but failed
    No, I am hoping for an entertaining race and that the Williams can be near the Mercedes to have some suspense. And if it is Hamilton taking the WDC (what I assume) then I have absolutely no problem with that...why are you always ascribe that we want Hamilton to loose no matter what?
     
  3. Simon^2

    Simon^2 F1 World Champ

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    Because anyone who doesn't worship his God needs to be eliminated. Sound familiar??
     
  4. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    To be honest as regards to yourself, I now believe you are somewhat not unnecessarily bothered who wins, however as for the other poster claiming Hamilton was eating a cookie, well, I'd rather bet Ham would beat him with one arm tied behind his back reading a newspaper, arm chair critics ......say no more.
     
  5. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Let facts speak for themselves, am outta here got some cooking to do...:D
     
  6. P.Singhof

    P.Singhof F1 Rookie

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    We saw that Hamilton was obviously faster/better in the races but not necessarily in qualifying. So for me it is far more the question why Rosberg can not get his speed from qualifying into the race day? He has proven that he has the speed to match Hamilton but either not the mental strength or the self-assurance...If he could sort that out the way he did in Brasil I bet Hamilton would have had much more problems this year, that´s why I am curious how things will develop into next season as Rosberg knows now that he can beat Hamilton...
     
  7. ELP_JC

    ELP_JC Formula 3

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    Forgot to add 'wish', or can you see the future somehow?

    Obviously true. We'll see how smart he really is by turn 1 :).

    I'm on that same boat. NIco is more likely to win the race, but Hamilton more likely to win the WDC. Hopefully some drama will keep the race entertaining.
     
  8. Ferraripilot

    Ferraripilot F1 World Champ
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    Lewis' issue isn't the brakes, rather it's the amount of trace understeer he drives with which causes the front tires to lock up slightly easier than Nico who definitely runs with a very different setup. Lewis probably has the car set up better for race pace as is evidenced at most races this season. Lewis sure emulates Senna an awful lot but Nico is the one who sets his car up more like Senna would have.
     
  9. 4rePhill

    4rePhill F1 Veteran

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    I think Lewis really wanted pole position today and gave it his all (which turned out to be a bit too much in the end), but he knew it would be no disaster if he didn't get pole as he knew that he was almost guaranteed to be 2nd on the grid.

    Nico on the other hand had to get pole to stand any chance at all to win the WDC.

    If Hamilton had got pole then Nico would have been left struggling to keep up , let alone apply any pressure on Hamilton.

    Now, if there's an easy chance to get the race win then Lewis will take that chance, otherwise he'll just sit in second and follow Rosberg home!

    Out of the two drivers, I honestly think Lewis deserves the WDC more. Nico has out qualified Lewis but has failed to convert too many of those pole positions into race wins.

    Lewis on the other hand has had to work harder in races for his race wins and so just edges it.
     
  10. ELP_JC

    ELP_JC Formula 3

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    Yep. Nico's only chance at winning (aside from mechanical issues) is Hamilton doesn't play it safe on turn 1, and gets a tire slashed, the wing broken, or something like that. If the Mercs are 1-2 after turn 1 unscathed, it's pretty much game over for Nico unless the mechanical demons show up on Lewis's car.
     
  11. ATBNM3

    ATBNM3 Formula 3

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    I would like to see Hamilton just hang out in Nico's mirrors the entire race. Never attempting to make a pass just in his mirrors reminding him that it's over and there's nothing he can do about it.
     
  12. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    That would be the smart thing to do. Let's see if Hamilton can keep his ego in check, just for once!
     
  13. ricksb

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    That would be wise and probably will be his strategy. As I said, realistically I would want the guy chasing me in the championship to qualify in front of me. It would basically give me the chance to control the action (as long as those pesky Williams don't get the jump).

    Really, he still needs the "drive to win" mentality tomorrow...too much passivity can be as bad as too much aggression.

    Ask Ferrari about the final race in 2010...
     
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  15. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    how are you feeling? Nico gets more poles over the season than the guy you said has speed that can't be matched. Did Nico cheat? lol
     
  16. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    lol....what?? Lewis overdrove again and screwed up!!
     
  17. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    You are as bad as toil.....don't bother denying it.
     
  18. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Ah man! Why do you have to keep encouraging him? :(

    To paraphrase; "let sleeping Toils lie".

    Ian
     
  19. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Yep. My impression too. Seems to me he *really* wanted pole here and simply overdrove the car.

    As I've said many times, I'm not really bothered who takes it now, but I'd love to see Bottles or Phil slip into 2nd at the start (or wherever) so we'll have some entertainment..... Nico 1 & Hammy 2 out front will have the 'boring, it's dead' brigade out in full voice. And they're nearly as insane as our buddy! :(

    Cheers,
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  20. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Lewis will be gutted that Nico got pole, that's obvious by how hard he pushed, but if Nico turns this into a WDC, that would be a minor miracle IMO

    Lewis' performances against Nico certainly shows how good MS was, even 10 years+ past his prime!! Just saying (HI tif12)
     
  21. 4rePhill

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    I think Lewis will be disappointed more than gutted, but he knows two things:

    1) He can take the fight to Nico in the race and beat him if he has to.
    2) He doesn't have to take the fight to Nico in the race so there's no point doing it.
     
  22. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    lol....come on...it's hilarious!! The best driver in F1 by a country mile, according to some, out qualified AGAIN....and by a significant margin!! How does that happen? Should be impossible, surely.

    The funniest part about Nico being faster than Lewis is knowing how peeved the lewis' blinkered fans are.

    Imagine krafty and toil if lewis had pole? "nico cracks under pressure" "lewis displays his dominance again" "nico is scared of lewis" etc etc

    Instead we had absurd posts like "lewis played it smart to let Nico get pole"....come on....a comedy script writer couldn't do better!
     
  23. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    +1 on both.
     
  24. 4rePhill

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    The funniest thing about Nico being faster than Lewis is how quickly Lewis can catch him in race trim, how easily Lewis can overtake Nico in a race (more often than not), and how quickly Lewis leaves Nico behind in race trim!

    Up to the Brazilian GP, Nico has had 10 pole positions, won 5 races and had 2 retirements.
    In the same period, Lewis has had 7 pole positions, won 10 races and had 3 retirements.

    Nico might be faster than Lewis over a single lap but you don't get any points for that!

    Lewis is faster than Nico over a race distance more often than not, and not only does that get you points, it also gets you a WDC!


    And the funniest thing about this post is: I'm not even a Hamilton fan!
     
  25. P.Singhof

    P.Singhof F1 Rookie

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    But this is what I actually asked myself: is that because of Hamilton being so good or just because Rosberg did not get it right in the past...It is not like Hamilton overtook Rosberg every weekend and obviously both in Monza and in Austin it was mainly Rosbergs fault...In Brasil Rosberg has shown that it is possible to keep Hamilton behind him, maybe this is a lesson he learned for tomorrow...I think it is more a mental block of Rosberg and being overcautious, when Hamilton closed the gap in Brasil after his mistake Toto Wolff mentioned that Rosberg safed the tyres more than necessary...Maybe Rosberg needs to risk more and I do not mean like in Spa...;)
     

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