choice for brake pads

Looking to upgrade my disc brake pads this winter, any recommendations on a good all-around pad that won't squeal and dust up my new wheels too much? 84 Mondial QV cab.
Thanks!

 

I've got Mintex on my 3.2 cab, pretty happy with them. Won't squeal cold or hot, great efficiency when hot, not much dust. Should be driven with care while pads are cold, but that can be said about almost all performance/racing pads.

Kind regards,

Nuno.

 

I prefer that brake pads got eaten before rotors.
This pads give me dust

I prefer that the brakes bite in stead of trying to do something that looks like stopping the car, but I'm not sure........TREE!!!!
This pads give me dust.

Squeaky pads just need a anti squeak plate and a bit of special grease between pad and piston.

Try to google it, brake pads that don't (as much) dust up the wheels, will shorten the lifespan of the standard rotors....

If you change rotors and pads from a same brand (that promises less dust) this could be diffirent. Hard pads give less dust, but have more tendency to squeak.

Choices choices choices....

 

Agreed with Bart on all points, my experience is the same.

This may be of some use:

I did a cross-reference search on Rock Auto and came up with some information. With a bit of research, you might be able to significantly widen the range of brands and pad materials that are available to you. The following is from one of many text files I keep on my computer. Important: Please do your own research on any of these before buying. Go to the manufacturer's website and look up the outline drawings for any pad you're considering to make sure that it is dimensionally the same in every way as what Ferrari requires. Some of these are very likely wrong! Then, if you have questions about dust, rotor life, performance, et al., speak with the manufacturer. (IMO)


Front Pads:

BMW 524TD (1985 - 1986)
BMW 528E (1982 - 1988)
BMW 533I (1983 - 1984)
BMW 535I (1985 - 1988)
BMW 535IS 1988
BMW 633CSI (1982 - 1984)
BMW 635CSI (1985 - 1989) [confirmed by Joe Frazar in thread http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/308-328/64460-308-328-gtb-gts-dino-gt4-parts-cross-ref-thread-12.html "85 BMW 635csi Using pad; MKD395 from Auto Zone" ]
BMW L6 1987
BMW M3 (1988 - 1991)
FERRARI 328 GTB (1985 - 1988)
FERRARI 328 GTS (1985 - 1988)
FERRARI MONDIAL (1983 - 1985)
FERRARI MONDIAL 3.2 (1986 - 1988)
FERRARI MONDIAL 8 (1982 - 1985)
FERRARI MONDIAL T (1989 - 1993)
MASERATI 430I (1989 - 1990)
MASERATI SPYDER (1989 - 1991)
PORSCHE 928 (1982 - 1985) I bought a set of Centric pads because they were on sale and met my needs. While they look correct, I haven't actually measured them or fitted them yet. As a hoarder, I stockpile a lot of parts

Rear Pads:

KIA SEPHIA (Front) (1994 - 2000) [confirmed by Joe Frazar in thread: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/mondial/258309-mondial-rear-brakes.html I've seen other references to this elsewhere. ]
KIA SPECTRA 2000

 

It's really nice to hear from a confessed hoarder! Nice data; thanks.

 

Randy: Due caution is warranted with the data, but I've often found it helpful to track down cross-references and the research them. This is of particular necessity with the Sonett, for which some parts have been unobtanium for maybe 30 years. (That car is a good teacher!) Lucky for us Mondial owners, most of the stuff is available, if at a price.

Regarding the hoarding, it's nice in one way... my basement is the engineering stockroom... need a TPS, ECM, Idle air valve, hoses, belts, lamps, brake parts, bearings, CV joints, etc for the daily drivers? Yes, it's all in stock and we're open 24/7.

 

bartzagato - I am with you philosophically. Mondial disc brake rotors are more difficult to locate and purchase than brake pads. You mention that "this pad"..., but didn't see a particular part or manufacturer reference. If you have a preference, that would be useful.

 

If you keep it with the brands you can buy at the local parts store, I think you're good to go (or stop in this case):
Mintex
Ferodo
Ate
Raicam
...
I buy whatever I can get ahold of.
If you go to the more specialised brake parts constructors: the fellas of Green Stuff pads and so, it's important to read the prescription of the pads: racing, hard pads for drilled/grooved discs....

If you're not fond of cleaning wheels: harder pads give hotter brake dust that burns harder on your wheels.

Also important, if you feel you're brakes are different the drives you make after a very spirited drive, it's possible your pads are glased. The toplayer is burned and became too hard. If you remove the pads and rough them up with some grainy sandpaper they're good to go again. If I've got squeaky brakes, I regrease the back side (special brake pad grease!) and sand the pads, but also the corners of the pads: I sand an angle on it. Also make sure they can move (relatively) freely in the caliper.
If you like spirited drives, then brake fluid is more important than your pads. Purge your oil at least yearly. Remember: it seems a closed system, but if you make your oil hot, during cool down period it's very likely to attract moisture. This moisture becomes water in your oil, this water boils at 100°C and becomes vapor. Vapor is compressable. I also would not go to DOT 5 brake fluid. DOT 5 fluid is another type: it isn't hygroscopic, but water still comes in and will form water pockets in your system: corrosion sets in (in calipers, master cylinder,...). Also, the system needs to be DOT5 proof. In the early days: it ate away rubber parts... I can asume those days are over, but our Mondis still have old rubbers in the brake system.
Before you replace your pads, remember to measure the thickness of the discs/rotors. If they're less then manufacturers standards: change them.

 

Extract taken from the internet:


DOT 5 is not interchangeable or compatible with DOT 3, 4, and 5.1 fluids and can cause catastrophic system failure.

Dot 3, 4, and 5.1 are glycol ether based. They are compatible, but like motor oils, you should use the recommended or higher grade fluid. Dot 4 and 5.1 also have borate ester to handle higher temperatures. DOT 3, 4, and 5.1 fluids are found in most brake and clutch systems.

DOT 5 is a silicone oil based fluid and can only be used in new, dry systems. It is found in racing, US Military, Soviet, and Finnish systems to handle low temperature, excessive braking, and water exposure problems.

 

I use Porterfield 4RS based on recommendations here. Excellent stopping power, great bitem but there is some dust. However, any car that will do 150 mph is not one I will use pads on that won't bring it down from repeated high speeds without fade. Older Mondial 8 or QV may not need as good of a pad, but the small cost increase and for the extra stopping power would do it for me.

Use Motul 600 brake fluid and you are way good. 660 is overkill unless you are regularly tracking the car. Agree, not silicon brake fluid for street cars.

Regards,
Jerry

 

Thanks Jerry, got the Motul 600 ordered. Are you the gentleman that did my Mondial's pre-purchase inspection 84 Mondial cab. in the "Hood" ?

Thanks,
Mark

 

Yup, that sounds familiar!!!LOL

Regards,
Jerry