Highest miles Scuderia I've seen that's for sale

37K miles, $145K. The price prob still a bit high but the car looks clean.
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Cool color - Rosso Mugello. Dealer got it wrong and misspelled "Rosso Fiorano" twice in the listing - red flag.

Paint needs a full correction.

Headlights are horrible, but can probably corrected with a heat gun.

Next step would be to investigate VIN.

I'm not crazy about leather, but the guy that ordered it picked some cool combos - pretty unique.

They will take less than 145 or the wouldn't have the "make offer" ; )

 

This seller gets colors wrong all the time. They show a pix the paint sticker under the hood then puts something else in the listing. I'm sent them a correction email once but they never changed the listing and never responded to me. Red flag!

 

^^^ Agree it seems a little suspicious. I don't know that I would go for the lowest price or highest mile Scud if I were still in the market for one. I would probably go for something around 10K miles and in nice condition with the color combo and interior I wanted (there are lots of scuds out there to choose from), maybe pay in the neighborhood of $170 - $190 for it.

 

i think i remember this one from awhile back.

the transport had put some sort of temporary, protective around the car and it marred the paint of the entire car terribly. looks like the owner just gave zero f***s and kept driving the wheels off it as is lol.

 

Good for him!

Paint correction is not a huge deal if done properly - not to scare any potential buyers.

 

Someone has been enjoying that Scud! Looks like it could be a good buy for someone not hung up on the miles.

 

I didn't know numbers went that high.

 

I think it is high too. There is a Black Scud with gold wheels in the classifieds right now listed for $160k with ~18k miles. Assuming you paid the listed price, wouldn't you rather own the 18k mile car for another $15k?

edit: asking price is now $156k for that car

Problem with the 37k mile Scud is if you put 10-12k more on it, its now a 50k mile Scud. I'm not one to worry about miles that much, but selling a 50k mile Ferrari is not so easy. Well it can be, but for what price ?

At that point (+/- 2 more years), the Scud in the OP is probably a $110-120k car, while the Black one I'm comparing it to might still fetch $140-150k

 

By that logic the F430 should dip below below 80k... I dont think its going to fall that quickly. At least I hope not

 

Depends if you actually want to resell it! : )

I agree though - seems a little expensive given some of the nice scuds on the market. On the other hand, they might be basket cases while this one has been sorted most of its life to put on that quantity of miles.

 

No..I agree with you. I only meant it would be a 110-120k car if it had ~50k miles, not for the overall market.

Maybe the asking price would be higher, but I think the real hammer price wouldn't be far off the numbers I gave. Hell, they'd probably take a cash offer of 130-135 right now.


Whats a CS with 50k on the clock selling for?

 

I was going to put in the "resale" clause

If the car checks out mechanically, it could be a great one for someone that doesn't have intentions of selling down the road. Not that it would be sale-proof, but anyone thats sold an F car knows what its like. I know I wouldn't want to be selling a 50k mile Scuderia privately.

 

This is always the case though. For example, if you buy a used scud with 2000 miles on it at a premium because of the low miles, then you're afraid to cross 5000 miles because that will hurt the value and it will be more difficult to sell it at the price that you want. Or, if you get one with relatively low miles, say 6000 miles, you're afraid to cross 10,000 miles because it will hurt the value. This is the case for every mileage milestone.

The key is buying the car at the right price so if/when you sell, you will not be hurt too badly. The bottom line though is, if you put miles on a Ferrari, it will lose value. Sad but true.

 

Agree, spot on with the milestones too. That's why I believe the asking price for the car in the OP is high.

Not to say it isn't worth $145 to someone else...

The debate about how much cars should sell for will always go on and on. My points about this particular car are that relative to what else is out there, its on the high side. Unless someone really wants a Rosso Mugello Scud with bad paint and 37k miles on it

 

The issue with a 37k mileage car is that a lot of mechanical and electronic components will start go wrong. We are talking about a Ferrari here guys not a Honda civic. Replacement of parts and labour can run to tens of thousands of $..If you do the math, it might be wiser to spend 30-40k for a cleaner and lower mileage car. But again, everything has its price.

 

I'm sorry that I am in the minority here but I don't think a Ferrari will fall aboart at 40, 50, 70K or whatever. Electrical things can go wrong at any time, that's not mileage dependent. The F430 and Suderia is a modern 4 cam engine with semi-tight tolerances. My background is Engineering. if you do not take it to max RPM on every shift although you can and should drive it hard to keep the seals working and reduce carbon in the combustion chambers and (here is the important bit) take proper care of it in regular service intervals, don't cut corners...the engine and drivetrain should and will be fine. It is an outright shame in the Ferrari community we write off cars at over 20K miles. yes cost of parts I get that, yes 10's of thousands understood. But these are mechanical processes and they are engineered not to fail or need remediation with such low miles. These are NOT race engines the tolerances are totally different they are not "hour" motors so to speak.

 

There are vids of scuds with 70k+ miles on youtube still being driven within an inch of their lives.

I would expect normal wear and tear and failures on a 6yr old car with 37k miles. Things like o2 sensors, wheel bearings, etc. Also important to understand what kind of miles were put on the car and what has been fixed to date.

Of course the labor can be very expensive as can the parts; but there are ways to mitigate some of that.

 

Didn't you read the sticker on yours when you got it?

"Car implodes upon breaching 30,000 miles or contact with rain, whichever comes first."

Until the "older" foggy type generation passes on, the whole stigma of "Ferraris can't do miles" will remain. Most of the newer generation of Ferrari owners definitely have no qualms about putting miles on their Ferraris. Just look at all the higher mileaged 458s on the market...pretty common to see a 1-2 year old 458 w 10-30k miles.

 

I wonder how many times the clutch has been changed. I would like to see the full service history of the car.

 

I have 10,000 miles on my scud and the milage thing and milestones do come up. My car is put away for the winter and it will be April before it comes out. Glad to see miles do not hurt them. Love to go to the annual meet in CA this coming August.

 

How can miles hurt a car that is built to be driven ....

 

For a Scud, I think 10K miles = approx $15-20K less in value.
A pristine 5K miles Scud can command $200K for example and this one is about $60K less.

 

Mate I fully agree with everything you have written. It's a shame that a Scud should be frowned upon for doing a few miles. I bet it gives trouble free motoring for years because it's at least being used.

 

That would mean the 360s would really drop, I don't see this happening