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  1. the_stig

    the_stig F1 Rookie

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    I'm telling his Dad what you called his kid! lol

    PS: somewhere I read something about there being a lot more to come?
     
  2. ferraripete

    ferraripete F1 World Champ

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    I agree that calling the run off win as classless is off base. Seems he would call Jerry Hansen, Paul Newman, and many others who brought fast cars and deep pockets to the run offs as classless too?
     
  3. WCH

    WCH F1 Veteran Owner Rossa Subscribed

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    As a former DSR racer, I too found Scott's effort sad and classless. He picked an easy class to win with money, and won with money. BFD. But then, I think DSR is a silly class, and the sports racers should be pushed into CSR.

    I would welcome Scott's entry in SRF, where he would be beaten senseless. He could bring all the money he wanted. Same for F2000. Driver classes, very difficult to buy.

    Scott did have a nice car, though.

    Did Scott talk about Leavenworth at all?
     
  4. apex97

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    Hey..tell me if this sounds like I'm hanging up.
     
  5. apex97

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    Easy class to win with money?....sad and classless?...Maybe so, but it produced an achievement that NO ONE HAD DONE IN SCCA for 56 freakin' years!

    Speaking of sad and classless, please come up and introduce yourself next time we are at a race together, I'll want to watch your epic mid pack battle for 47th place in the SRF field.
     
  6. WCH

    WCH F1 Veteran Owner Rossa Subscribed

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    Here's an article from the LA Times explaining the legal issues - probably more suited to politics and religion, really. I've doubted from the beginning of this thread whether the FTC action ultimately would affect Tucker at all, much less finish off a racing career that has seen him heroically overcome the dual handicaps of extensive professional experience and an unlimited budget to conquer the SCCA's fiercely contested DSR club racing class.

    Tribes' payday loans under scrutiny - latimes.com

    ;)
     
  7. Texas Forever

    Texas Forever Eight Time F1 World Champ BANNED Rossa Subscribed

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    Why Will, I didn't realize you thought so highly of Mr. Tucker.:)

    Dale
     
  8. WCH

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    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ Consultant Owner

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    LOL! I need some of that handicap. I'm that other guy with the pick-up truck and an open trailer.
     
  12. WCH

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    You can park in the shade of Tucker's two mezzanine tent!
     
  13. Texas Forever

    Texas Forever Eight Time F1 World Champ BANNED Rossa Subscribed

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    Well, to be fair, have you ever seen Lawrence Stroll's entourage? I saw him once at the Historics in Mt. Tremblant (which he owns BTW), and I swear he had a butler serving sandwiches. :)

    Point being is Tucker is not the last guy to throw his money around at the track. I also suspect he will not be the last. But maybe more to the point, sports car racing in America needs more guys throwing money around. It's on life support as it is.

    Dale
     
  14. GuyIncognito

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    Just FYI, the lead prosecutor, Preet Bharara, is coming under some fire for over-aggressive prosecution. I don't know the facts of this case other than what I've read in the media of it, but in the anti-lending, post-consumer rights world the 99% rails on, I sincerely hope this isn't merely a railroad job by the Feds.

    CW
     
  16. rob lay

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    with the Tucker case or others?
     
  17. apex97

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    This started as s result of a personal vendetta against Mr Tucker by the Colorado AG, who was tired of losing 100% of his cases against PayDay loan companies.
    He began a campaign to paint Tucker as the "evil Godfather of the industry, racing Ferraris on the backs of the poor".
    Love him or hate him, this is your government throwing a tantrum against a rich guy they don't like.
     
  18. GuyIncognito

    GuyIncognito Nine Time F1 World Champ Silver Subscribed

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    except this is a federal case, brought about by the FTC.

    and he's also been investigated by the states of Nevada, Nebraska, Oklahoma and Kansas.

    not to mention a previous federal charge in the early 90's for which he served time in federal prison.

    man I hate it when all these squeaky clean nice guys keep getting busted. what a travesty.
     
  19. apex97

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    All that is true, but this all got started in the Colorado AG's office.. A man who tried SO hard to win in court some of his staff went to prison for fabricating evidence in a case against a Payday company. He orchestrated the cases in other states and made sure it was brought to the attention of the Feds.
     
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    I just wonder why Tucker put his company behind an Indian Tribe? Couldn't he just register a Kansas or Delaware corporation like the rest of us? Heck, I'm 1/8th Choctaw and I didn't even put my company with a tribe.
     
  21. GuyIncognito

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    because your company doesn't do something fundamentally illegal that needs a corporate veil and other chicanery to hide behind?

    to Apex: I know you used to work for Scott, and may consider him a friend...but it would be wise to not go to bat for him on a publicly searchable internet site, lest he tarnish you as well. I speak with some experience, having worked for someone currently in federal prison. I liked that guy too...up until the point it was obvious he was a fraud.
     
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    I have nothing to add other than: CRAZY STORY!!!!
     
  23. apex97

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    No doubt!
     
  24. apex97

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    The tribes were allowed to operate under s different set of rules than non-Indian companies. By funding those companies there was more profit, less lawsuits and no direct ownership. Clever, but not illegal, and that's what made the states so angry.

    As far as going to bat for my friends, I am pretty loyal until I am proven wrong. My support remains for capitalists like Tucker and against corrupt governments:) I had to buy my tongue or Rob would make us move this to the Politics section!!
     
  25. CornersWell

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    Just as an aside, I don't think you get on any AG's radar screen for no reason...

    CW
     

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