Why aren't Daytona's 1 mm or more?

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60's ferrari, berlinetta, 4 cam, six carbs, transaxel, successor to 275. question is, how can it only be $1M.
best buy in enzo era ferraris

 

Finitele is absolutely correct. The Daytona is perfect "for cruising" across continents at 130-140 mph. It is easy to tell which people on this forum have actually driven Daytona's.
At 130 mph, when you put your foot down, its just keeps pulling like a freight train.

 

Cruising? The Daytona is a driver's car. Enzo-era 12 cylinder berlinetta, last of the line.

 

I just spoke to a Daytona owner. He has had his car in storage last 5 years since he bought it. He drained all the oil out of the car and unplugged his battery and it's been sitting on lifters since. (I dont know if that is actually good for the car nor the suspension system). He said when he drove it first the clutch was so heavy he had trouble taking it around the parking lot. He is hoping to sell it when the price goes up more. He sold me his 1989 Speedster saying that the clutch was heavy. Personally I didn't have any problems with the clutch on the Speedster so perhaps he is a bit fussy or weak with the left foot? Any Daytona owner would care to comment on the clutch? I've never driven one before

 

The 1st Ferrari i ever saw was owned by...Dr Jack Frost, in Iowa....A red Daytona coupe. When he opend the hood to show off the engine i swear i heard angels sing, the sight of 6 carbs on top of a V12 still etched in my mind 45 years later. I dont remember him having a Spyder,but i was only a patient of his, so anything is possible. Interesting guy, somehow he was friends with Gurney, Bobbie Unser etc. Made quite an impression on a 12yr old kid in a small midwest town-where anyone in a Corvette was a big deal!

 

i dont find the clutch heavy at all.

 

Having had fortune to drive several different Daytonas in past 10 or so years, I'd like to say that just like with any other 40+ year old cars there are noticeable differences between individual examples mainly because of tuning, chassis set-up and overall maintenance, etc and IMO, Daytona is quite non-descript or, for lack of better wording dare I say, almost boring to drive at speeds under 100 mph.
OTOH, first time I had one at 140 or so on a two lane highway it became chrystal clear what is the purpose of their existance..., but I've also driven examples that, all things being equal, would not perhaps dare to attempt same.

 

if you like the daytona styling cues, but dont like the way it handles at low speeds, or the effort it takes to move around the parking lot, then just buy a 456mgt. they made half as many as the daytona ww, and they are a helluva lot cheaper (at the moment).
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The clutch isn't exactly light but it's not horrendously heavy either. I notice the weight a lot more when I get back into my modern daily and muscle memory has me nearly pushing the clutch on that through the bulkhead.

 

+1 good description.

 

Dr Jack Frost liked to drive his Ferrari models. His Daytona Spyder *14543* was offered for sale in the FML July 1988 with 5,800 miles.
In April 1972 he picked up a new Daytona *15113* at the factory. Then he drove the car around Europe for a while. The car was then put on a plane and sent to America. Once the Daytona arrived on the first day that he drove the Daytona it was destroyed by a drunk driver.
Later he ordered another Daytona *16213* and safely put 15,000 miles on that car. Likely the red Daytona coupe that you saw there bbpathfinder!

 

That would be the one,quite an attention getter.But sadly i think the Delorean he had drew more stares!. Never did see his Spyder....

 

Owned mine for 15 years, clutch is not overly hard to depress and very easy to start the car moving with the torque of the engine. I agree with post that addressed it was not hard to see who had driven a Daytona.. Once you have driven one "at speed" you won't forget it..Daytonas were not designed for ' round town driving'..

 

I think Timo is correct.

As an older car, I think Ferrari had to pick a speed to which it is designed. For the Daytona, that design speed was higher than before. Mine is not really "alive" till about 80-90 mph. As Timo says, you know exactly why they did what they did when the speeds come up.

I've had mine on the track....and is such a sweet car. Very nice handling for a 43 year old car

In contrast, I think the modern cars have a much wider speed envelope in which the car feels right with more modern engineering and technology.

Bill

 

The problem is that there is really no place left to drive the car as it was intended. There were places in the US until speed limits came in 1974. Since then the limits have been rescinded but we have added 100MM people and the attendant traffic and enforecement. The French Autoroute and Italian Autostrada are no longer the lightly patrolled radar free routes they once were. Germany is the only place left. Enforcement continues to grow for revenue generation. The fun is gone.

 

I disagree, I believe there are plenty of places (other than race tracks), even in the U.S., to enjoy Daytonas (or most vintage Ferraris) as intended, for GT = Grand Touring (= Long Distance Travel) driving.
Most vintage Ferraris, including Daytonas, are NOT city commuter/cruising vehicles. To use them as such, IMO, is almost waste.
More recent models (which I'm not too familiar) with all their "car control nannies"(???) seem to have been designed to better accommodate also city/commuter type driving.

 

You remind me of a friend of mine that used to complain about how uncomfortable it was to walk around the ski lodge with his ski boots on. Translation: That's not what they're designed for.

 

Find a place you can ski in and out...and drive your Daytona on Le Mans circuit, best place of all, only limit is your brain or fear or lack of...Ok I am lucky!

 

Back on topic...
Today there are three Daytona coupes for sale on the Classic Driver site that are asking over $1 Mil:

Ferrari 365 GTB/4 'Daytona' for Sale | Classic Driver

Daytonas in Europe seem to be significantly more expensive than those in the States, as usual.
A decent, black 1969 plexi coupe #12923 just sold for $748K at the 2015 Bonhams Scottsdale auction. From the description it appears un-restored with a claimed 55k km. So it still has its scary original sodium valves, but the buyer got an excellent deal! Beautiful car!

Bonhams : The Montreal Auto Salon,1969 Ferrari 365 GTB/4 Daytona Berlinetta Chassis no. 12923

 

Love the Plexi....

Jack

 

Which is why JD Classics have a slew of LHD cars for sale.

 

VERY low mileage (8000 km) plexi Daytona for sale in Switzerland (no affiliation):

1972 Ferrari 365 GTB/4 'Daytona' - Plexiglas | Classic Driver Market

It's mislabeled as a 1972... it's actually a 1970.