ferrari makes the high pitch f1 style wail. aftermarket is only to make the existing sound louder thats why aftermarket cannot make vette, amg, gtr have the ferrari sound
Not sure asking "what's the point of LOUD?" is going to sway anyone's opinion on the matter. I'm I going to put a sport exhaust on my Lexus? No. Am I glad my Cadillac is quiet? Yes. Do I enjoy the high pitched shriek of an F355 when the bypass opens? Yes. It's just all personal preference and depends greatly on the vehicle in question, in my opinion.
Purpose of loud? Help timing shift when wearing helmet on track day Fantasy of racing car Excitment Why loud music? Concerts? Sports stadiums? Why sports car at all? Uncomfortable, no storage, high maintenance, low bumper scrape, unstable bad weather. Because its fun
Valid question John. My F355 also came to me already modified with a Tubi. I added Hi-Flow cats and some headers along the way as well. The sound is truly amazing. That being said, I don't know if I would have spent the money for the Tubi myself, having to be somewhat budget conscious, but of all the cars I've ever owned, this one brings me the most pleasure. The sound is just part of the equation however. I have a neighbor who can't fathom why I would own such a car. As previously mentioned, it's not great on gas mileage, is somewhat cramped and certainly has no real storage space. He drives a Prius and that's fine. Some of us simply view our vehicles as utilitarian, providing a means to get from point A to point B in the most efficient and comfortable way possible. But we on the other hand, relish the drive itself. And to me, that unmistakable and Ferrari-only sound that my car generates as it crosses the 4,000 RPM threshold makes the experience that much better. I only hope that my neighbor feels as passionately about something else in his life as I would hate to think that his point A to B philosophy permeates his entire life. How sad would that be? Guess I may have gotten a bit off topic, but damn, these cars will make you do that... Happy New Year everyone, Henry
Great reply from Tim on page 1, having some of Maranellos finest cocaine in the garage That's so true because the sound of these cars really is a drug. I love it! When I was at my Ferrari main agent recently they wanted to fire up an Enzo so I could hear it and made me jump at the sheer blast. It was incredible. I'm often gestured by passers by to accelerate so they can hear the engine, it's like an expectation. In my opinion it's part of the Ferrari DNA, it's the culture. It's an exciting thrill to hear the resonance and scream as you shift through the gears and the tunnel experience is like no other. Is the sound important? Heck yeah!
Nice read. I actually find myself reading Ezra Dyer's stuff even when he's reviewing less interesting stuff for the NY Times. This. When I drive a Ferrari, and the Porsche to some extent, it's about the mechanical involvement of the car. With the daily driver, mostly I want it quiet enough to listen to music and handle any incoming calls. Different priority. But I don't think it's about being loud as much as the special note the Ferrari V8's have. Compared to the synthesized, piped-in "engine noise" in some modern cars, the exhaust note of the Ferraris is pretty special. Air-cooled Porsches also have their own signature, which is different but also unique
Well, going back to where this discussion on exhaust note started, the 2016 Mustang with 5.2L flat crank, 8k rpm, V8, based on that video there is no reason the new Mustang could not achieve a similar exhaust note as a Ferrari. Would seem to be more a function of the muffler design and you can always change that, right? Happy New Year.
Owning both Ferraris and a Porsche Boxster I would tend to agree with that to an extent. More so with the Ferrari. But I also find I drive the Porsche harder because I have more confidence it it's handling. The down side is that because of the Ferrari song I tend to think I'm pushing harder than I am. So in a sense, while more involving also distracting.
Two cars that come to mind that left me underwhelmed when I heard them for the first time was a Ford GT and Dodge Viper. Being American cars I was expecting more of a deeper, louder muscle car sound to them, even though the Viper has a V10 co-built with Lamborghini. The Vipers V10 sounded more exotic than what I was expecting even though this car is supposed to be a modern day Cobra. The GT's exhaust was also very quiet, not something I would have expected with 550hp. If I just heard the car and didn't see it, it would not have caught my attention. Now, I had heard the Ford GT with the Ford racing exhaust on it, thought it sounded fantastic. It would not stop me from purchasing either car if I liked most things about them, however I might consider an upgraded exhaust. How many times have you asked someone to start their car just to hear it, or has someone asked you to start your car for the same reason? I don't really think about this topic that much(taken for granted) but when it comes down to it, I think the sound of your car might effect your experience greater than you realize. I think it would be tough for me to get used to an electric car no matter how good it is, just because I would feel that something is missing. I guess some might call it "conditioning"
Speaking of electric cars, I presume you have seen this? Video - Drag Race - Tesla Model S P85D vs Ferrari 458 Italia The Ferrari wins, obviously because it has a higher top speed, but the launch control sucks.
As good as the acceleration of the Tesla is, I prefer the Ferrari over it, no surprise there. Thanks for posting the video. I suppose I could live with a car like a Tesla for a commuter or everyday car. It would definitely take some adjustment.
I remember reading an article about how Ford spent a large amount of time developing a particular sound for their high performance V8 Mustangs; a sound they've been able to maintain for more than 40 years, despite engine displacement changes, etc. They could probably get pretty close to the Ferrari sound if they really wanted to, but not exactly due to differences in displacement, rev limits, crank design as previously mentioned. Another car that comes to mind regarding engineered exhaust sound is the Nissan/Infiniti performance models, such as the Nissan Z. These cars have a very unique sound, which is what they were going for. These cars are fairly quiet at low revs, but develop a unique growl with increased revs. I enjoyed this unique sound when I first heard it, but now find it more annoying and sounding too "manufactured".
Not that simple. Just because the engine has a flat crank does not mean the sounds signature will be anywhere close to the Ferrari. Let's see: different displacements, different headers, different heads (valve lift profiles), different diameters of piping, etc, etc. All affecting the acoustics. The firing order is a significant but only one of the variables. If the source of sound does not have the exact or near-exact acoustic signature (which is the industry-speak is called "orders" and can be seen on FFT plot) no amount of exhaust work will make it sound the same, at least to the trained ear. The way to "cheat" this is, as automakers started to do lately in production cars, is add the missing sound via electronics/speakers. But, as many will undoubtedly agree, is not something that purists would appreciate. The world of acoustics is very subtle one and even minute or seemingly unimportant changes can have profound effects on the sound. This is what makes this both so interesting and challenging to the guys that design and built this stuff.
Yes, I know a thing or two about acoustics and wave propagation is ducts. I should have said exhaust system rather than muffler. And what you say is true and also why all Ferraris don't all sound the same. And also why a 3.5 L V8 turning 8k rpm doesn't sound like a V12 or V10 turning 12 to 18k rpm.
Definitely not the same sound, totally different with an amazing reverb that's not on the stock exhaust. Most of the after market brands have their own distinct sound otherwise they would all be the same but just louder. They have options for personal taste too.
Definitely not the same sound, totally different with an amazing reverb that's not on the stock exhaust. Most of the after market brands have their own distinct sound otherwise they would all be the same but just louder. They have options for personal taste too.
Different strokes for different folks, but to me a Ferrari without great sound is like going to an IMAX movie with a 4 x 6" speaker for audio output. If sound isn't important to you at least you can save money and hassle by not having to buy and install a surround sound system for your TV like the rest of us idiots have to contend with (how did we go from groves in a vinyl record to digital audio signals in a fiber optic cable in such a short time period??), but to me sound is a key component to the immersive experience of being in a performance car. One of the best things about the Steve McQueen movie "Le Mans" is the nicely recorded ripping howl of those cars blasting down the track.
