BBC News - CES 2015: Toyota opens up hydrogen patents
Totally relevant to the new chassis and PU's for 2015 lol!! Love this thread. If you need alternative energy and fuel data - ITS ALL HERE LOL!
What can I say ...I got bored with pond scum, thought I'd give the thread an explosive edge, very tricky containing hydrogen yer know..
LOL.. Hahaha yes it is, funnily enough I do need a name for my band, working title at min is Unorthodox Behaviour... Now that really could be a thread derailment..
This will probably be my last post on this topic as we are upsetting the natives ... I guess it's coffee or F1 only Anyway the thing I keep coming back to is the internal combustion engine is a useless inefficient thing. I think the best are around 40%, plus on top of that you have all the wasted energy in moving fuel around so if it convenient for users to fill their cars. Electricity is really, really easy to distribute. My vision, for Australia anyway, is that every single house and factory has their own solar panels. Pretty much meaning we can close the coal power stations down. You would keep one or two in case there was some sort of disaster, etc. If we were really clever (not sure if this is possible) we could rid Australia of the ugly power lines and power cuts. If I happen to loose my power, who cares, that is just my problem not the whole district. The other consideration is we have farms in this country that struggle every year to produce anything because of our very dry weather. Farmers commit suicide, etc. ... terrible. Instead of farming crops and animals, etc. the government should support them in turning their ineffective farm into a solar electricity farm. No longer would it matter if the land cannot sustain crops or grass, and as that farm no longer needs to be irrigated that means more water is available for other farms around it. Perfect, farmer has an income and his neighbours are better off too. Unfortunately our politicians are bought by the coal suppliers ... err! Pete
I'm taking it very much on face value. We will see many teams develop their units to the best of their abilities during the season but I do not believe it will make much of a difference in the end. This is all much ado about nothing
It's a great idea. I would buy that, if I was living in Australia. But I am living in England, where it would never work. Not enough sun. Without fuel or nuclear produced electricity, we would go back to the middle age. We do have some people here who have invested in roof solar panels though. I haven't made up my mind if they are really excentric folks or if they know more about global warming than the rest of us. We have "wind farms" too. Sounds poetic until you go half a mile from them: the noise is just too much. Plus, they kill a lot of birds too. So, hybrids are our best bet, here at least. Highly efficient gas engine on the rod and electric motors in town.
Sorry, didn't specify in my question. Do you believe teams will be allowed to gradually develop on the 2014 unit and then homologate the 2015's or will have to suddenly homologate and jump from one to the other inside their allowed 4 units?
That's a great question and I was wondering something similar myself. It's really anyone's guess. I believe they will continue to develop as long as they're able, but if you mean by jumping from one to the other that they will perhaps swap a more developed unit for a less developed but possibly more powerful unit, yes. Since they will have so few engines I'm guessing they will chose to not rotate them through the course of the season as they will want their most developed unit to be used at the nearest event, but not at all times if they can help it such as only at certain practice sessions. This will be ludicrous to watch, all those relatively untested power units all season means someone will get something wrong. This rule could prove to shoot half the engine manufacturers in the foot with the reliability issues we may feast our eyes to during 2015.
Yes, still not clear here if a modified 2014 PU but non yet homologated as a 2015's model, would be legal to race. The rules prohibit it but their interpretation keep changing and the clarifications are worse than the rules themselves
What we need is for the start of a F1 race to involve each car being filled with random house hold rubbish. As soon as the car has turned that rubbish into energy they are off racing. Rules: 1. X number of laps. 2. Rubbish/fuel tank size to be same for each car. 3. All cars to start with exactly the same amount of stored energy, as they will need something to run the whatever to create energy from the rubbish. This energy source cannot drive the car directly. 4. Car can generate or capture other forms of energy, ie. solar, brake recovery for creating energy from the rubbish, but ... 5. Only energy derived from the consumption of the rubbish can drive the car. 6. Number of tyre pitstops is free but car cannot take on any form of energy in a pitstop. 7. Car physically must fit in a particular box size. 8. Car bottom must be completely flat, including any surface that faces the ground without any other piece of the car inbetween. This should reduce the ability of the cars bodywork to produce downforce. 9. Accelerator pedal must activate drive source directly, ie. no computer control involved. 10. Brake pedal must activate brakes directly, ie. no computer control involved. Now that would be fascinating and change the world!, and solve 2 problems with a single solution. Pete
. Writing that post made me think about the point of top level motorsport, which became F1, and that was to develop the automobile. A lot of the excitement in the old days came from the technological developments and we went faster and faster over the years. This is why I'm a big supporter of the current hybrid power units as we have something to develop and it is interesting. We don't with the internal combustion engine. Its as good as it is every going to get, or needs to be. But the ultimate solution would be to turn the enormous amount of rubbish we humans produce into energy. That would be perfection. Pete
Ted Kravitz Q&A: Looking ahead to the 2015 season on Sky Sports F1 | Features & Experts | Sky Sports Formula 1 In case you are taking a break from saving the world energy wise. Ted from SKY chats about the up-coming season.
