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Official 308 GTB/GTS Market Thread

Discussion in '308/328' started by vaccarella, Jan 21, 2014.

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  1. Falcon

    Falcon Formula 3

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    The recall was for the forks that attach the A arms to the frame. The A arms are the same until they mounted the Mondial suspendsion. The forks bolt on. Once changed the 86 & 87 are identical.
     
  2. furmano

    furmano Three Time F1 World Champ

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    #152 furmano, Dec 10, 2014
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    It's more of a few little things that evolved after the first year of production, like always happens with the first year of Ferrari production. I can't say I have a list of the changes. I'm not saying '86 is a bad year by any means. I'm just being a little choosy but I am open to a nice '86 if one comes along.

    Thanks. I am familiar with those cars. The first one has red carpets (not the end of the world) and I am trying to get service records of the car but so far, nothing. The middle cars is sold. I will check out the third car at Exotic Motors. I can't remember off the top of my head if I have check into that car. I need to refer to my search notes.

    It's hard to get copies of service records from a lot of these guys. I thought solid service records were a normal part of the selling process but getting copies of records to review is like pulling teeth.

    I am familiar with the FML cars listed recently but I should just pony up for a subscription to get a consistent read on the market.

    -F
     
  3. st@ven

    st@ven F1 Rookie

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    Abs only came in 88.5
     
  4. nerofer

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    Well, yes and no:
    On the "Euro cars", ABS came as an OPTION on cars produced after 76626, which have the revised suspension (and the associated bulged wheels).
    76626 left the production chain at the end of February 1988.
    ABS remained an option until the end of 328 production: some of the very late produced euro 328s, even having the revised supsension, do not have ABS because the owner did not order it (and did not pay for it).

    On American-market 328, ABS was not an option:
    All "88 1/2" cars, even if they already had the revised supsension, did NOT have ABS.
    All MY 1989 had ABS.

    Rgds
     
  5. st@ven

    st@ven F1 Rookie

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    You are right of course. What i've meant was that Abs was only available on 88.5 models And depending on the market

    The 77626. Is an 88.5 spec?
     
  6. nerofer

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    It Is the first car with the revised suspension and bulged wheels; after her, there were only 4-5 cars still with the older suspension produced, all cars were "série 2" so technically in the "88 1/2" définition.

    Rgds
     
  7. George Vosburgh

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    88.5 started ABS
     
  8. Bullfighter

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    Sorry, "MY" as in "model year".

    You're right, my ex-328 was an '87 from Sport Auto.
     
  9. MREUS

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    #159 MREUS, Dec 14, 2014
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    I am finding out about more and more people looking to buy a 308 (especially the QV) - like Bullfighter. There does not appear to be many for sale right now. Winter can be contributing to this lack of available 308's. So, more demand and less supply (ones in very good shape) = higher prices.

    My opinion is that, for typical Ferrari buyers, <$100K is not expensive for a Ferrari. I know several Ferrari owners that have new and/or more valuable Ferrari's that have the 308 on their list of future purchases. They are willing to pay a premium over "market" to get the 308 they want. Because another opportunity may not come along again for quite some time.
     
  10. Oengus

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    I remember when EBay auto trader was full of them
    Now you can hardly find one...
    Early 308's don't last long....
    9 X out of 10 all EBay auctions close early with a deal reached between bidder and seller
    You have to be prepared to make a deal, try and tie the car up with a PPI and then wire the $

    Most sellers won't pull their ads until they have $ in hand....... even if there's a PPI being performed
     
  11. T308

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  12. Oengus

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    Wonder where that puts my 1977 GTB
     
  13. docbell

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    I was curious what most here think.....Are more Ferrari buyers in search of purchasing a 308 looking for a '77 to '79 carbed version or a 308QV?
     
  14. Oengus

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    I'm biased but I'd say a 77 carbed and an 85 QV ... (Excluding the glass cars)
     
  15. 308 milano

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    #165 308 milano, Jan 10, 2015
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    All this talk lately about a Ferrari bubble got me to thinking, pretty damn hard to have a bubble when no one is turning over their cars on the cheap. So let's say,your approached by an individual with a checkbook. What $$ amount would it realistically take for you to hand over your keys? Not saying you wouldn't regret the decision, don't want to hear how you can never replace it with anything close to what you have, don't want to hear how you plan on keeping it forever, just a very realistic number of what it would actually take for you to let go. Personally, I have no intention of selling either one of my 308's but to have these cars this week.
    84 Euro GTS QV red/creams 40,000 mi. $104,000 / 82 308 US GTS blk /tan 54,000 mi. $50,000
    What would it take gentleman?
     
  16. mwr4440

    mwr4440 Five Time F1 World Champ
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    Sorry. Can't play.

    Honestly don't need any amount of money. I am not rich either. I bought what I WANTED, not what I could afford.
     
  17. Brian Harper

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    This happened to me at Concorso Italiano with my GT4. That's why I have a GTS now.

    It took me a week to go from "Not for Sale" to signing over the title. Everyone has their price.
     
  18. Bullfighter

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    This, exactly. I don't have anything else on my want list below F40 price levels, so ... Open to that trade if anyone's tired of the silly wing out back.
     
  19. 308 milano

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    That's it! Just trying to take a very unofficial barometer of where we as a community Stand regarding value of our vehicles. Basically, "it's not for sale but this is what it would take," Poll.
     
  20. 308 milano

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    Come on guys! There were only a few stipulations and everyone keeps reverting back to "it's not for sale" or "I can't replace it." LOL it's not like I'm asking what you paid for it!
     
  21. Jeff328

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    If someone offered me a no-hassle $65,000 for my 1988.5 328GTS red/tan, a tick under 30k miles, overall excellent condition (only A/C needs recharge) I would probably let it go.
     
  22. URAS

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    other than your generic vehicle, whenever any of us have purchased a vehicle of any substance, the prior owner has gone through the same thing most of us go through currently when contemplating the parting of one of our loved one. when you look at inflation, the cost of ownership, there is rarely a net recovery at the end. most of us own these type of vehicles for the pleasure, the investment is not at the top of the list. right now, if I had to put a value on the cars, it would be significantly higher than market value, as do not need to sell. as I get older and sell, or if my kids decide to sell, it would be based on market value not my need to artificially increase the value so that there are no buyers. having said all of the above, the increase for 308's is symbolic of the general increase in collector cars. as an example, my 1980 bmw m1 which I purchased in 1992 for $40,000 is now going for $250,000. the rule of thumb is that money doubles every 10years. so 1992 to 2015 is 23 years. $40,000 in 1992 is equal to $208,000 in 2015. add in the insurance, maintenance, opportunity cost of investment elsewhere, space taken, and so on, and I know I am at $250,000. so really no net gain...........but damn I have an M1, or a 308, or whatever.
     
  23. BLR308

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    $45K - Red/Black 83 Euro GTSi QV, 32,000 miles. AC compressor seal leaks and I like cold air in the summer.
     
  24. Vonbarron

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    30k and zoohoo's 348! I need some drama in my life. The 30k buys two wrecked glass 308's I've seen in a stash near me
     
  25. Oengus

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    probably wouldn't sell my 77 GTB for any offer right now......unless it was insanely high.
    Had two offers off the cuff of 75k and walked from both.
     

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