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Is this a bubble?

Discussion in '308/328' started by slvr993, Jan 8, 2015.

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  1. jessup

    jessup Formula Junior

    Apr 26, 2014
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    When I started looking a year ago I was shocked a bit by how quick cars were selling. Some that I was chasing were gone a couple days after listed. 1 was sold within hours. I was able to get mine because I stated making the deal before the dealer had even received it. At the time I felt that I was being a bit hasty, but I haven't seen a better deal since then to make me regret the rush.
     
  2. Oengus

    Oengus F1 World Champ
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    Thats what I did
    I called the seller and asked what it would cost to pull the car off their site. Agreed on a price, sent a paypal deposit and wired the funds that afternoon.
    The dealers have it made when everybody wants something they have.
    Some even won't honor you doing a PPI and say "if we get a written deal while the car is getting a PPI we will sell it" therefore no car and out $400+ on a wasted PPI
     
  3. FrannyB

    FrannyB Formula Junior

    May 20, 2014
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    Arvada, CO
    Are 308s showing up at the national top concours in the country (Pebble, Amelia, etc.)? I know with P-cars they couldn't be bothered several years ago and then the 356s started showing up and the Porsche family got involved. I think that may have offered some clout to the rising prices. Just wondering if this is happening to the 3X8 line at all. They are a bit newer than the 356, but the 911s are showing up too...

    Just a thought...

    Franny
     
  4. 19055

    19055 Formula Junior

    Jul 19, 2014
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    Short (bit) off-topic: I read the term PPI a lot, I only find info on that abbreviation for stomach pain inhibitors and some sort of retirement-program.. Though I'm European I'd like to know, might come in handy one day, thanks !

    Emile
     
  5. FrannyB

    FrannyB Formula Junior

    May 20, 2014
    293
    Arvada, CO
    "stomach pain inhibitors" is actually pretty close :) ...or should be...

    PPI - Pre Purchase Inspection...

    If that helps... I like yours better though...
     
  6. 19055

    19055 Formula Junior

    Jul 19, 2014
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    Ahh, yes, clear. So the one thing/explanation may lead into the other...
     
  7. hoverland

    hoverland Formula Junior

    Aug 14, 2010
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    A proper Pre Purchase Inspection may prevent later stomach pains and ensure a troublefree car for a great retirement -so in a way it makes sense.

    H
     
  8. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
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    May 4, 2001
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    One thing this thread has made me realize is - finally - doing that 3.5L rebuild on my 84 no longer doesn't make economic sense, if that makes sense.

    Not that I ever plan to sell the car in the first place. It is just nice to know that even after that expense, I am still way in the black.
     
  9. ColoradoTiger

    ColoradoTiger Formula Junior

    Jun 11, 2010
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    Mark
    I can't believe you have waited this long. It's an incredible difference!!!
    I just had Carobu perform more updates. Dyno results to follow soon.
     
  10. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Jan 11, 2008
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    The empirical approach is usually the best.

    It's also tough to make generalizations when every car this old is unique. Commodity market rules don't strictly apply.
     
  11. paul0843

    paul0843 Karting

    Jan 26, 2007
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    Couldn't agree more.
    A dealer I spoke to on the phone in June told me that they had a 1976 gtb just
    come in but refused to take a deposit.
    He did agree though to give me first refusal if I was at his showroom at 10am
    when they opened.
    Well I was there at 9.30 waiting patiently.
    His attitude was that's the price,take it or leave it.
    After we agreed the deal he showed me on their computers that even though the car had
    been online for a few hours they had over 20 enquiries.
    As the saying goes.. You snooze you lose
    Paul
     
  12. Bullfighter

    Bullfighter Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Jan 26, 2005
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    Finally, 308 buyers can be treated as badly as new Ferrari buyers!

    We've waited years to be abused like this.

    So cool...
     
  13. Robb

    Robb Moderator
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    Hilarious.

    Robb

     
  14. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    LOL

    I wonder if they'll be more willing to service them now.
     
  15. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
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    I have had a lot of other irons in the fire lately. I really want to finalize this soon.
     
  16. cnpapa24

    cnpapa24 F1 Rookie

    Jan 19, 2014
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    Don't be so flippant about it. The first variants of many cars become more valuable than their successors once they transition from used car to collector status, since they are the more pure to the original concept, regardless of whether or not their driving performance is inferior. There are many examples of this. It is very likely that this will happen for the 3X8s as well.
     
  17. MS250

    MS250 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I think you need to man up and sell your car for 22k on eBay and do the community the same service as you have the last 7yrs claiming the 308 isn't worth more than 25k

    :p
     
  18. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Funny thing is I doubt I could get much more than 22K for my car - it has nearly 116,000 miles on it.

    People will run away from that like it has ebola
     
  19. jmaz

    jmaz Formula Junior

    Jun 27, 2011
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    I could actually see this happening (yes I'm in Colorado but not smoking anything at the moment), although I don't know about it being very likely. I do find myself looking at photos of those 308 manual heater levers, etc. and liking them at lot.
     
  20. MS250

    MS250 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I've waited since 2008 to bust your stones HARD about this day :D

    And still you cant Give me the props you a$$ LOL
     
  21. paul0843

    paul0843 Karting

    Jan 26, 2007
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    And those levers are why I have a 308,well 2 actually but wouldn't buy a 328..
    Paul
     
  22. Falcon

    Falcon Formula 3

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    You mean this isn't a joke? The most significant factor in price appreciation is when the supply outstrips the demand. You have to run out of sellers before buyers to make the price increase. With production volumes of 12,000 308s and 7,000 328s it isn't likely that the values would reverse.
     
  23. jessup

    jessup Formula Junior

    Apr 26, 2014
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    You don't have to wait to find out. Glass 308 is already valued much higher than 328's.
     
  24. jessup

    jessup Formula Junior

    Apr 26, 2014
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    Jessup
    True, but you are putting to much weight on the supply side.
     
  25. jmaz

    jmaz Formula Junior

    Jun 27, 2011
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    Jim
    But that's based on the very limited number of glass 308s vs. other 308s.

    I wish I could get my car out past the ice and snow and get in a good drive. I need to clear my head of all this talk of values and bubbles and remember why I bought the car in the first place!
     

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