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Discussion in '348/355' started by GTSNJ, Jan 19, 2015.

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  1. Robb

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  2. ShineKen

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    The picture you posted of the actual plaque on your car is the VIN. Did Euro cars have VINs on the steering column? I am sure the Vin Guru is pretty confident the last 6 numbers of the car indentifies a car. What he wants to know is if the VIN on your title is exactly the same as the VIN on your car (not just the last 6 numbers), or is does it have a "z" instead of a "2" (your actual VIN). If your title has a Z instead of a 2, it will further "confirm" someone made a one letter mistake and passed it on. Since the Vin number with "z" instead of "2" shows up on car reports clearing stating a title issue. It states Salvage OR sold at a Salvage auction. Either or is a title "issue" because any salvage car will state the same thing. To me, the last 6 numbers is your car and if any reports pop-up with a title issue regardless if another report might have "missed it," the car still has a title issue. Something was reported to someone at some point, regardless.
     
  3. ShineKen

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    The car couldve been issued a salvage title OR sold at a salvage auction because of a flood, not a collision accident. Anyone who inspects the car looking for a significant collision damage prob wont find any. However, if one is lookimg for signs of flood damage, you would have to look at the interior and a bunch of other stuff. To me, theresno need to look because it has already been mentioned it was in a Sandy incident. It's up to the prospective buyerr to decide if he still wants it or not. If the price is right, someone will take it. History of the car is already laid out.
     
  4. GTSNJ

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    Accident was 2009, sandy was 2012 so it didn't go to auction over a flood. I agree the car will sell when I'm ready. Like I said throughout the thread, I have not suppressed or concealed any aspect about its history. In fact I posted the link with everything in my first post :)

    Car never had a salvage title, plenty of cars run through co part with clean titles. That's what the autocheck refers too.

    Thanks for the constructive input I appreciate it!
     
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    #230 driveitdaily, Jan 28, 2015
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    Gts is correct ,not all cars sold at salvage auctions have salvage titles . We , as a used car dealer have used copart to sell clean title cars. Sometimes we have a car that is less than perfect or has some history of damage etc... and have chosen to use copart because the audience there knows what they are buying , not expecting perfect , looking for a deal on something with issues and so on . Copart also makes it easy with transportation to the auction , promotes the units on the internet , reaches many potential buyers thru thier online auction, and once the unit is sold , it is the as is property of the buyer , period . In other words , the buyers know what they have bought and are not whiny beeatches . its a no hassle way to be rid of an issue car. Its not all junk , gts 's car , or any car sold at copart could be a nice car with just some paperwork history that has no negative effect on how the car runs , and the dealer chose that venue to sell it . We have had instances where we took a car to a dealer only wholesale auction and have failed to receive an acceptable amount of money, then sold it thru copart and have watched it fetch thousands of dollars more ,its a global market , so don't necessarily assume if sold thru copart it must be a salvage vehicle .

    And to add . this whole discussion lately , and fear of salvage vehicles , has been a repeated annoyance. First i have to say i believe in complete honesty when selling a salvage vehicle , and absolutely detest someone who attempts to sell one without complete disclosure , i have , myself purchased a salvage 348 and completely love the car , understand what i bought and will never sell it , or never misrepresent the car . My car was a mint 27k mile car , that just happened to have $1500 of damage , so casting judgement that if its salvage it can not be a nice car is a general misstatement( my car the trophies to back this up ) . Just consider all the cars that are now coveted as million dollar collectibles , that were wrecked and rebuilt from the ground up , long before carfax and salvage titles . instances where the car was found as a frame and engine , completely re bodied and carries no stigma as rebuilt junk simply because it was done at time before reporting was standard , turn the dial ahead , look at car and write it off as junk because of minor damage because we now have carfax , its senseless .
     
  6. ShineKen

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    So will car sold through Copart show on reports "salvage title or salvage auction?"
     
  7. GTSNJ

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    Technically yes because copart and iaai are primary salvage auctions. That's why the autocheck wording is deceptive. The car isn't a salvage car .
     
  8. INTMD8

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    All true and I'm guessing the title is clean as it's been stated as such.

    As mentioned however it doesn't really matter what the title says as we know the real history of the car to be mileage unknown, non-running/damaged due to hurricane sandy at one point and advertised as one VIN while the vehicle shows another.
     
  9. GTSNJ

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    We have always known the history on this car. Its all over the internet before this thread. I'm not touting the car off as a mint 80k example. It's a driver that runs well and I'm happy, looks nice too regardless of what everyone thinks here. Anyone who sees this car compliments the overall condition eventhough everyone here says its junk pos.

    I'm happy we finally stopped calling it a salvage because that was false.
     
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    #235 driveitdaily, Jan 28, 2015
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    "sold at salvage auction " does not mean the same as title branded "salvage" an unbranded car can be sold at a salvage auction . I can take the nicest one owner no accident , clean title car off our lot and sell it at a salvage auction as a clean title vehicle .Would be crazy to do so , but i can


    For you guys viewing copart , pay particular attention to how the seller is listed , if the seller is an insurance company , those will be your "salvage "branded title vehicles for the most part . If the seller is listed as dealer , alot of times those will be the clean title vehicles with some blemish on the history or previous accident damage or whatever the reason may be ,that a dealer has chosen copart as the way to sell the vehicle ,for what ever reason.

    I have known some dealers to sell a car at copart just because of mechanical issues , bad trans or whatever , that just doesn't sell at a dealer only auction because of the defect. The car will sell easily at copart , because it is an internet auction , everything is sold 'as is" and there is no after the sale recourse . its an easy way for a dealer to get rid of a mechanically defective vehicle.
     
  11. GTSNJ

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    Thanks John for your reply. Members can now see the truth.
     
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    #237 driveitdaily, Jan 28, 2015
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    No problem . I like going to car shows, i let the judges do their thing , then tell them my car is salvage , the reaction is always the same " you're telling me THIS car is salvage , no way "
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    It looks great John. Those wheels work really well on it.
     
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    Gorgeous car. Sad but real life example of the papers killing the car for most people except for grown ups who know how to buy for pennies on the dollar. Great job and I love the wheels on it.
     
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    #240 ShineKen, Jan 28, 2015
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    Autocheck uses this specific wording, "salvage title or sold at salvage auction."

    My question is, will a car sold at/from Copart have this EXACT wording on its autocheck report? I am just curious.
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  16. GTSNJ

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    Somebody needs to post the FULL report to show the specific entry to the salvage auction. It is literally a record and nothing more. If anyone has the Carfax or autocheck please post in its entirety. Will help clarify for everyone ☺
     
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    Thanks guys , my car is a perfect example of a pristine car with a piece of paper tucked away in a file that says " salvage" . Makes for a wonderful experience of driving and enjoying the car without obsessing over the odometer , and stone chips and bird crap ...lol


    1994 ferrari 348 spider , third owner purchased may 2013 w/ 27804 miles
     
  18. INTMD8

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    Even still, what does it matter. First you would need to buy an autocheck for each vin that goes back to the car. Second, we already know it was damaged enough to be salvaged but just wasn't reported.

    Whatever the title or carfax says doesn't really matter at this point IMO.
     
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    It does look great! I'm really surprised at how little damage will get one of these totaled out.
     
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    Not always based on dollars or severity of damage ,accident wasnt the owners fault , report of accident blemished the carfax , he filed a diminished value claim , ins co totaled the car rather than argue . I just love making the point , just because its salvage in no way means it can not be a pristine example
    If we were talking ford fusions , no one would care , but when its cars like these its an interesting topic

    1994 ferrari 348 spider , third owner purchased may 2013 w/ 27804 miles
     
  21. GTSNJ

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    Lol how do we know the amount of damage the car had ??? The PO put a new battery in it to get the car running after Sandy, he majored the car for piece of mind. Stop making the car out as junk when you have NO first hand knowledge of my car. Go post the reports buddy make yourself useful, saw in the other thread you have the autocheck and even clearly doctored the post by providing a half truth snippet of the auto check,stop playing the car off as salvage. Hahahahha.. Show us the full story pal you posted everything else about this car including Vin tags auto checks interior photos etc.
     
  22. INTMD8

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    Well it was advertised as

    "This STUNNING Ferrari is discounted so low due to the unfortunate occurance of Hurricane Sandy. Needs new interior and car will not turn on. Never taken to mechanic to try to be fixed."

    VIN: 00000000000000000 - Ferrari : 355 GTS 1996 Ferrari F355 GTS


    And it sold for 20,100. So, it is discounted due to a hurricane, needs an interior and does not run, sold for less than half retail. Sounds to me like it would have ended up with a salvage title if reported.

    Why not report the damage btw? Hard to file a claim on a car when the paperwork doesn't match the vin on the car? (just a guess on that one).

    Also, don't fool yourself into thinking you are going to tell me what to do here. I posted a photo of the autocheck that someone else had already posted.

    The only one doctoring things (title) and providing misinformation about this situation is you.
     
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    I dont want to get involved in the argument or add fuel to the fire , but the possibility exists , the only way the damage would be reported is if it was claimed with an insurance company , not claiming it , imho , would have less to do with a possible clerical error with the vin , and more to fo the possibility the owner at the time the water damaged occured did not have comprehensive insurance coverage , which is what is needed to make a water damage claim


    1994 ferrari 348 spider , third owner purchased may 2013 w/ 27804 miles
     
  25. GTSNJ

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    Haha good one. You reposted something I already disclosed. Car never sold on that eBay ad BTW. Here it is for $29990.Plenty of car finish with high bids and don't sell.

    I never doctored anything on papers thanks for yet another allegation. Stop hating buddy its not good for your blood pressure.

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    LOL!! What you don't want to post stuff you already posted?
     

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