Hello from NJ! New GTS 6 speed member

LOL, just wanted to make sure you didn't think it was something you wanted to submerge your car in.

 

Salvage or not, the car is yours. If you believe this car has potential, then stick around and save the car. If I were you and looking to sell, i would save myself the headache and just say it has "possible"s salvage history (like the previous sellers did) and sell it for a price close to what you paid + restoration. It's not going to be a $45k + anytime soon anyways. Bad history and Salvage is almost synonamous in the Ferrari used market.

The 355 brotherhood find these type of threads entertaining. Im simply just curious about a few things. I'm still amazed there is actually someone in the world who is trying to collect every Ferrari Vin in existence. Talk about a hobby that'll keep you busy.

Like Bob said, if you're gonna come on here trying to convince people a certain standard for a car is acceptable, you came to the wrong coffee shop. We all have different standards. It's tough debating standards. What we would like to see is an impressive restoration.

 

That sounds fantastic. I'm sure everyone here looks forward to seeing our cars made better and brought closer to their best shape.

Robb

 

Yes we do. I don't think that is where the OP is going with it though. Either way we have some temporary entertainment.

 

You guys have it all wrong, it's already been restored! Pics are earlier in the thread.

 

LOL. You should have opened with that!

 

Please just use imported italian olive oil , dont use inferior california oil or you 'll start a whole mew controversy


1994 ferrari 348 spider , third owner purchased may 2013 w/ 27804 miles

 

The leather on your upper dash looks ripply. Would you be interested in purchasing a black leather dash in good condition? I might make a move on a nice entire dash assembly, but wont need the upper dash. Let me know. These dont come around often.

Your passenger seat is ok. Driver's seat needs new leather and you can restore just half of it. You dont have to do the whole thing. Ill be sourcing some black connolly leather for my bucket seat project and air-bag elimination dash project. If i have enough leather left over, i can sell you some.
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I agree with Ken on this. It is his car and if he is happy with it, that is all that matters. Most everyone that has posted on this thread already has a F355, so even if this car is for sale at the present moment, most are probably not considering a second one, especially one that has questionable history. So if someone wants to possibly fix something that a lot of people wouldn't, I say great.

As John stated earlier. Way before Carfax and Autocheck, a lot of cars went under the radar. Some big dollar GT40's were restored with severely damaged(totaled) frame and bodywork. Some cars were restored with very few original parts. Take a look at what Gas Monkey Garage did with an F40. That car had some major problems, before and after the restoration. Frame issues that were not addressed properly in the first place. The car still sold. As long as there is full disclosure I have no problem with it.

 

Throw in some linguine and garlic and those will be some delicious seats


1994 ferrari 348 spider , third owner purchased may 2013 w/ 27804 miles

 

Now you are just making me hungry. Rub some marinara sauce on there and then I'm interested.

 

Meow !!

 

You have a good point about the vin numbers..there was a guy up here a few years ago taking photo.s of vin's at one of our meets he almost got himself a real good beat down.He said it was for his friend that collects them
People that post their Vin's are nuts..ask my friend that had a fake registration made from his lambo from someone getting his vin and then borrowing money against his car it was a real mess when the bank came calling.

 

then don't own a ferrari...(in fact many makes now make it visible/ have a print through the front windscreen)..they are there for all to see for a reason...you can't park your car somewhere and tell people not to look through your windscreen.....either that or blanko it with a black tape....oh yeah the other option is don't take your car out and leave it in the open

 

Hey, I forgot about that thread! Thank you! I'll have to revive it with the hope that people will continue contributing.

I don't harass anyone, and I resent such an implication. I stand before this entire forum and ask anyone to step up and claim that I harassed them for their VIN. Sure, I ask a lot of people; I post often, many times requesting members disclose the VINs/serial numbers of their cars. If they say no, or simply don't reply, I understand, and I move on. Mine is a pursuit of history, truth, historical accuracy, and objectivity. This is not a game for me; it's a passion - however obscure it may seem to you and others - and I tirelessly toil over my database, constantly documenting Ferraris around the world.

I have 100,000 Ferrari serial numbers in my database, some with extensive histories, corroborated by the photographs in my ImageBase. I am not the only person who collects VINs and documents Ferraris; but I am certainly the most vocal. One of my goals is to bridge the gap between VIN collectors and Ferrari enthusiasts and owners, and clarify the understanding of the importance of documenting each car's history. Many people think I'm a kook ...until they're in the market for a car and want to know a car's real history - the stuff that's not on CarFax. I've lost count of the number of people who have contacted me about Ferraris in which they were interested, and I sent them history that wasn't available anywhere else. I woke up to nine different PMs on Monday (20 if you count replies) - and that was just Monday. That's an average day for me.

I never said you owe me anything - I never said anyone owes me anything. I am not trying to smear your reputation, I am simply pursuing the truth - and you have been lying and side-stepping the truth since the beginning of this thread. No one is questioning whether or not you acquired the car legally or illegally - that was never anyone's contention. The only question - my question - is that you post a picture of the VIN from the car along with an unedited picture of the entire VIN on the title. I know they won't match, you know they won't match - and that's why you whited out most of the VIN on the picture of the title, and that's why you're now refusing to post any additional pictures. You're feigning ignorance, but you know damn well that there's a difference between the VIN on the car and the VIN on the title.

My tattoo is irrelevant - you wasted time researching me. And you can't resist or refuse or oppose or refute what goes into my database about this car. This thread is already documented, with a link, and many quoted posts. Should anyone contact me about this car in the future, they will be bombarded with reading material. I have not attacked you - I have only requested that you post an unedited picture of the VIN on the title, along with a picture of the VIN tag on the car.

This is exactly what I want to know. Thank you, Ken. The last six digits of a Ferrari VIN are the car's serial number. So, for example, ZFFCW56A430134282 is a 2003 US-spec Enzo - 134282 are the last six digits of the VIN, and so 134282 is that car's serial number.

I have 102602 in my database, BUT THE REAL VIN IS ZFFPR42B000102602 and all of your documentation, including CarFax and AutoCheck reports show the VIN to be ZFFPR4ZB000102602.

I don't know when 102602 was exported from Europe and arrived here, but I do know that it was for sale on eBay in February, 2011, through a private seller in Cape Girardeau, Missouri - and the VIN was already incorrectly documented at that time. This screw-up happened before you purchased the car, but now it seems you're using this abstruse discrepancy to your advantage. This is why I continue persisting that you post unedited pictures of the car's VIN and the VIN printed on the title.

This screen shot of AutoCheck clearly shows the incorrect VIN - ergo this incorrect VIN carries with it a sordid history. Meanwhile, the real VIN is probably clear of any questionable incidents. This is deceitful. People work long and hard to earn a Ferrari; they shouldn't have to deal with troubled cars like yours.

So it is for sale?!? Both sites - usedcarsfsbo.com and projectvroom.com - concede the car's low price is due to Hurricane Sandy. If the car was flooded, how is the title clear?

You did doctor one of the photos! You whited out most of the VIN on the "clear" title, so that we wouldn't be able to see whether or not it's listed correctly compared to what's actually stamped on the car.

How can you refute this record? How can the title be clear if this clearly shows that 102602 has a salvage title? But, wait - the VIN listed on that report is off by just one digit (like I posted above, the second Z should be a 2). Because it's a European VIN it does not have a check digit like US VINs; so scribing the 2 to a Z can be seen as an honest mistake, and since there's no check digit, there's no way for someone at the DMV to realize that it's incorrect.

Thank you. This is all I want.

And again I thank you.

This thread started with your predatory attempt to sell a misrepresented car to an unwitting buyer. But other, knowledgeable Ferraristi are familiar with the car and spoke up about having seen it, and knowing that it's a storied car.

I understand that the handling of the information I've cultivated requires delicacy and discretion. This is why I choose my words carefully, and strive to discover the truth, especially in situations like this, so that my documentation is accurate and objective. In my database, this car's history will be open-ended until I have irrefutable proof of exactly what transpired from when and why this car was imported here from Europe up until now, and exactly when and why the VIN was mistranscribed.

And so, at the risk of sounding like a broken record, I insist you post unedited pictures of the VIN tag on your car and the VIN on the title.

 

Carbon ! OMG get a life !!! You need a hobby! Golf? Let's all stop and try to work a little today! What's happened to us ! We have become a bunch of children at the playground / I beat up so and so I won! Crazy Baby. Everyone have a nice day