Official 308 GTB/GTS Market Thread

...Any chance of adding a Fiero horn button...???

Cheers,
Rich

 

Love it!

The stirring wheel cover.
Leopard wrap.
That Daytona.

Raising the minimum bid to $199k!

 

For the wrap, I was thinking about this....

Should work even better on a 328,
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Like so many Fcar parts, the Fiero horn button is becoming increasingly rare!

But I will start the hunt. It's the little details such as this that really help the overall value!

Cheers!

 

Someone was wondering what his wife would do with his 308 after he's gone... She will let her new boyfriend drive it, and with her onboard. Since he will be way younger, he will more than likely grind the gears, not ever having been near anything manual.
So, regardless of condition, drive it with a great deal of gusto, enjoy it for what it is, and forget about what the market is doing... The car makes you feel like a millionaire, and looks like at least a million. It will never gain weight, will never give you grief, and it will do exactly what you ask it to do, time and again. Try that with some of your human relationships.
Therein the real value.

TN

 

I will eat my smog pump if someone running a smog station knows where (or what) the R2 points are.

Also has there been any documented cam seizures from a locked up smog pump. I would imagine that literally impossible

A felony for running non standard equipment? About as likely as being arrested for buying a $2 square for a supebowl bet. Let's get real, blow the numbers and you are fine

If you pull up to the smog station and the smog monkey is over 35 years old pull out and go somewhere else

 

The state's smog computer systems are being filled with the smog equipment that came on the car. They are required to look and an army of state inspectors has been unleashed to bust the inspectors for failing to inspect for missing equipment.

My car came out of Marin. Did you know it? Brown 308 owned by a Italian guy named Tony.

 

My air pump seized about 6 years ago at high revs. It churned the belt into a molten shredded mess. I've never replaced the pump. No emissions test required in Ontario for pre 1988 model cars

 

I don't doubt that, but practically they don't look. I have smogged the 308 and lambo 3 times each at different shops and never had the tech look at anything except the gas cap. All the fear is overblown, but the number you need to blow are real.

when did you buy your 308, let me see a pic.

 

Don't doubt that. The design of that tiny belt would result in just that, a shredded belt, but no way enough force to jam a camshaft.

 

Awesome. Inspectors for the inspectors. Good use of your tax dollars - paying for an additional level of bureaucracy.

I'm so glad that all of my old cars only need "Safety Inspection" - and that's only if I don't have them plated at "historic vehicles". Historic vehicles don't need anything.

 

I find it funny that in CA there is no safety inspections. Not that I'm complaining.

 

depression rates would go up -
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In my experience they sell cars that need work and are quite realistic with their prices.
I think they just want quick turnarounds..
I bought a car from them in June.. Very easy to deal with,and car exactly as described,and
probably worth twice today than what I paid.
Paul

 

In my county in Florida you just need to show that the car exists to register it.

In Massachusetts you need annual inspections and semiannual smog tests. The good news is that if you know the right garage you don't need to bring the car in to pass.

 

I bought it last April. Pic is in my avatar.

 

Well if I was approached to sell my 1984QV, condition 1 after a professional detailing, with 8,003 miles on it from just 6,800 last October, at which time I had the 30k service done. Everything is original except for the silicon coolant hoses. Someone would need to offer me $200,000 to even consider parting with her. They better offer soon, because it seems with all this good weather we're getting here in CA, it appears I will be racking up the miles quicker than I thought I would. LOL. Knowing no one would offer that, I guess I will just have to enjoy every single mile I put on my baby.

 

It was probably 78 degrees in San Diego today in the afternoon. Trying to get anyone to sell any open top Ferrari in this weather...

 

Hey Guys,
I'm wondering if there's any discount to '83 QV's compared to '84's and '85's? Hagerty and FML don't differentiate between the different QV model years... I figured there might be a small discount due to the corrosion resistance.
Thanks!
George

 

I don't think so. By this time what has rotted has been fixed. And usually better thAn new.

 

No Sir.

 

Current market listings don't differentiate.

But, as an actual buyer writing a real check for an actual car, I confined my search to '84 and '85. In my experience, they do seem less prone to rust, but also Ferrari had finally figured out emissions control by '84 and went to a single cat system without the smog pump.

The other consideration is that the later 308s tend to come with the 16" wheels, which arguably look better than the metric wheels common on '83s and allow for better rubber. Of course you can always change wheels, but then it's not as original.

On the aesthetic front, the '83s had the windscreen frame painted black on the GTS -- I've never been sure about that, but everyone has to decide what he/she likes.

I would guess that other buyers would also take an '84-'85 over an '83, and that at some point price guides will catch on to that preference.

It used to be that even glass 308s weren't really singled out. I was reading old buyers' guides, and one "expert" at the time said he wouldn't pay more for a glass car. Times change. When all 308s were $30K cars, no one really bothered to make distinctions. Now there are meaningful distinctions being made between glass, steel carburetted, 2vi, and QV. At some point, I suspect a Late QV category will be more widely recognized, in the same way E-Types are valued as Series 1, Series "1.5" for a gearbox changeover, Series 2, and Series 3.

 

I doubt insurance companies know the difference or that Ferrari used galvanized material in 84 & 85...not that it made that much difference, 84 & 85 got their share of rust too.

 

I would not differentiate, but I would not imagine much of a difference even to those who did.



PDG

 

83's did have the black A-pillar which I prefer.

If I were choosing between an 83 or and 84/85 for the same money. I'm driving home in the 84/85.