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488 GTB (458 replacement)

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by synergy, Aug 7, 2014.

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  1. Noblesse Oblige

    Noblesse Oblige F1 Veteran

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    Very possible
     
  2. MisterMaranello

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    It means there is a Turbo engine.

    FWIW I hope this "#wordsarenotenough" gimmick doesn't turn into something cringeworthy.
     
  3. Zaius

    Zaius Formula Junior

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    Very lame on Ferrari's part to even host a facebook page.
     
  4. subirg

    subirg F1 Rookie

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    Have Ferrari hired McLaren's head of PR :)
     
  5. rmitchell248

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    You could take it as a dig towards Mclaren with the 12c to 650s being considered a "new car"
     
  6. 330i

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    Why is that lame?
     
  7. Noblesse Oblige

    Noblesse Oblige F1 Veteran

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    No. But maybe Apple's.
     
  8. MisterMaranello

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    Oh God, the horror!

    Come Tuesday and we hear this:

    "We have given the car a really great name, the greatest and best name that will ever be. But we're not going to tell you it." :rolleyes:
     
  9. 911C4S

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    i do not care about the name and the marketing. all i want is a mini-laferrari. inside and out.
    peter
     
  10. chouch

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    Wont happen for the 458M (or whatever they end up calling it)
    I suspect Porsche will be quicker at applying the 918 technololgy in the 911 than Ferrari in their V8 berlinetta.

    A mini-LaFerrari might be what you'll have for the replacement of the 458M, which will be a brand new car, not just an evolution.
     
  11. Caribbean458

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    I'm actually excited for both the updated 458 as well as the Mac 675LT which is being unveiled in March.
    Exciting months ahead!
     
  12. 911C4S

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    i do not care about the hybrid tech, just the exterior styling and the dashboard is want i want::::)))
    but you are right, not even this will happen with the M.
    peter
     
  13. MisterMaranello

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    You're convinced Ferrari will regroup and go down the route of carbon fiber monocoques for the regular models? I'm not so sure, yet... Many things will no doubt have changed by then, so I wait in anticipation.
     
  14. MisterMaranello

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    What's new about the McLaren? Will it be at Geneva?
     
  15. 911C4S

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    the new mac will be a speciale-type version of the 650S.
    peter
     
  16. chouch

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    I'm convinced that Ferrari can do better than slapping a Turbo and call it a day.
    Although I'm 100% sure that the 458M will most likely be better in every way, I cant help thinking that they went the cheap way. I was hoping to see more LaFerrari technology than a good old boring turbo.

    Time will tell, but in teh next decade or so, I'm expecting baby hybrid V8 and why not, carbon fiber monocoques.

    I also secretly hope Ferrari wont butcher the design on this new 458M. (I'm looking at you, "ugly" 430)
     
  17. MisterMaranello

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    The car is an M, there is only so much you reasonably do. I would not downplay the 458M to simply being a 458 evolved into "slapping on a Turbo and call it day". That would be a serious underestimation towards the effort put into this new car.

    It's not the "cheap" way, it's the sensible way. Crazy materials and high production costs are reserved for the more elusive models. FWIW the V8's are going to be turbocharged from now on. The implementation of hybrid drivetrains might be a possibilty on the V12's. No V8 hybrid that is.
     
  18. MARMIST

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    I am expecting Ferrari to copy or at least imitate at some point the "insane" acceleration mode of the Tesla P85D.

    The 85D beats every car excluding probably the AgeraR in acceleration from 0 to 60 mph. It starts losing only when the real fuel power kicks in.

    Now imagine a 458 with the same electric-immediate-torque acceleration and then at 60 the turbo engine starts roaring for real.

    Guess that is the future until electric can really replace gasoline.
     
  19. REALZEUS

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    It strikes me as really odd that seasoned Ferrari enthusiasts don't know the Ferrari way of doing things. There won't be a carbon tub folks, nor a hybrid powetrain. Things are pretty straight-forward. A 3.85 litre TT V8 with about 660 horses and great electronics in an aluminium chassis and body. It will be the best and most desirable car in its segment and journos and punters alike are going to be praising it for the next 5 odd years. Business as usual then.

    Next case please. ;)
     
  20. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

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    A Tesla? Really? Pfff... BTW many cars smoke that thing to 60 (the 458 has been clocked at 3 seconds dead), but 0-60 is meaningless anyway. I regurarly do 0-200+ kph and that's a bit more sensible when it comes to comparing cars.
     
  21. 720

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    Except it won't rev to 9000 and the sound will be lacking...

     
  22. REALZEUS

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    True, true... :(
     
  23. noone1

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    No one will care except the message boards though.
     
  24. noone1

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    I'd say anything below 30mph on a road is meaningless and anything under probably 45mph on a track. Only time I'm going under 30mph is if I'm coming to a stop or leaving one (usually with a car directly in front of me.) On many tracks I'd be surprised if the lowest speed turns were much below 45mph.
     
  25. Solid State

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    Owners should care.
     

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