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1979 Porsche 930 (...and 78's too!)

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  1. ferraripete

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    mike,

    you have a great example...not just a good one but a great one. no one has take the time to see it and that in itself is stunning to me. I know your car is worth even more than you have valued it in your most recent attempt to sell. I cannot help but wonder that if it were located in a slightly more accessible place on earth and it would actually get seen...I wonder if it would not have been long gone?

    there is ZERO question in my mind that you know what great examples of the various marques are...you have owned many. not to mention black 930's are evil looking:)

    please consider having the car consigned or displayed in a reputable broker or dealer...just a thought my friend.

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  2. Mang

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    ...thanks Pete, was thinking Fantasy Junction perhaps, or maybe show up at a C & C at Blackhawk, etc. I had an option to piggyback a bigrig headed to the bay area tomorrow and balked.

    RIGHT NOW, not for sale, I expect the prices to rise still, so time is my friend. Thanks for all your help folks, and don't want to make this thread about my car sale. Lets focus on all the great cars and for now, I am still a proud owner.
     
  3. Mang

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    fantastic car, but claiming it's the lowest mileage example in existence might not be true...seems Ed B.'s car is the LOWEST! But hey, 110 miles is pretty low, lol. I am pretty sure the reason for all these uber low mileage '79's vs. ALL the other years, is due to the announcement - no more exports of 930's to US market by Porsche in '79 and many were 'mothballed' for collections later...7 yrs. later back they came to the US, so some were brought into service, but many were zero to low mileage cars with years on them already so many owners of this vintage elected to keep on babying theirs forever. Unique situation.
     
  4. idart

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    Pretty cool. This turbo is 9309801198. I updated the last 50 thread on Rennlist. At least 6 of the last 10 (9309801191 to 9309801200) were black so perhaps there is something to the rumor that the last 10 were black.
     
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    #1306 idart, Jan 9, 2015
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    Tony – I just read a great two-part article in the June & July 1975 Panorama magazine (Porschestrasse 42) that describes a VIP tour of the Porsche factory. The article covers the entire Porsche 911 production process from engine/transmission assembly, paint, 25-mile test, etc. The article has a passage that mentions workers tagging parts of the car during inspection: “Okay, let’s turn our backs on a bevy of beautiful Porsches ready for their 25-mile road test by a lynx-eyed, microphone-eared expert who’ll pick-up the slightest rattle, squeak or whistle anywhere in the car and catch up with any fault once it’s on the road. Red, yellow and green dots plastered in various places indicate checks already made on each car during assembly, and this even includes wiring.”

    This may help explain the colored dots on the 1970’s Turbos found in the engine bay and perhaps even the red dot on the brake pedal pad. Perhaps the red dot was not exclusive to the power assisted brakes (1977+ Turbos) and explains the red dot on the clutch pad of 1975 Turbo #0242 (perhaps it was switched from the brake pad or could the clutch pad also have red dots?). Photos below show a blue dot on an intercooler of a 1979 (found on many original cars) and several inspection dots in the engine bay and clutch pad of ’75 #0242.
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  6. voitureltd935

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    #1307 voitureltd935, Jan 9, 2015
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    Agree, I have the dots on inter coolers also as on my silver 79 in photo but not on all the others. My other 79 intercooler has a green dot. The red dot on the brake pedal is consistent on the three near perfect 79s 930s ( all NA), Brake pedal red dot is cellophane or plastic, not paper. I recently sold one with 18K miles to a serious collector in Germany and put a sock over the brake pedal to assure it stayed there in transit. The previous original owner had even removed the original mats so not to be stepped on. If missing maybe removed or driven with wet shoes. The coil also always seems to have a red dot. Must have been a reason back then?
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    #1309 idart, Jan 25, 2015
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    The 1979 Porsche + Audi dealer press release kits only included one 930 Turbo photo; specification sheet; and a combined 911SC & Turbo press release. Here are few excerpts from the press release…

    FROM: Fred Heyler
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    Porsche Turbo and 911SC – Fantasies Come True

    Based on the "SC" , the more powerful Porsche Turbo can be recognized easily by its flared fenders and distinctive "whale tail" rear spoiler. The Turbo is a direct descendant of the turbo-charged 917 which dominated international road racing in the early ‘70s. More recently, modified Turbos have captured the World Manufacturers’ Championship, the International Motor Sports Association Road-Racing crown, and the coveted U.S. Trans Am Championship. This racing experience, along with Porsche’s desire to produce the ultimate road car, are the forces behind the “street Turbo” development.

    Porsche engineers have pioneered automotive turbocharging – a system which many other manufactures are now turning to in an effort to recreate more powerful and flexible small-displacement engines. The limited production Turbo has a very responsive air induction system in which intake air, compressed by the exhaust-driven turbocharger, passes through an intercooler before entering the engine. This enables the 3.3-liter fuel-injected engine to produce 253 horsepower, and 0 to 60 miles per hour times of less than 5 seconds.

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    Many great comments and information on some current 930s sales activity especially on a very nice sienna brown 78 930 sold at auction. Pelican site 911/930 Turbo Forum "Noteable recent sales"

    Originally Posted by shlobeck
    I had an opportunity to buy this car at $85k, (per Sloan's emails) back in February of last year...I thought it went to someone else but apparently not...Oh how times have changed..I think a larger segment of the collector car market are forever changing the values of these cars.

    Yes I saw it when @ $85K but the earlier ask was $65K , again you don't pay to much when you buy to soon. Most thought it was overpriced in those times. Now a year later $140,400. with Commission. I guess it helps to validate what has been happening.
     
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    Rich posted some interesting early 3.3 information on wiper arms on the 930 Turbo Carrera site earlier today. I moved a couple of his pictures to this forum.
    He noticed the front arms on has last 50 '79 930 were the same small 17mm width as the ones found on the '76 930's. I checked the original arms my early build '79 and they are the same. My rear wiper arm also has the same design and size. Don't know if these are NLA or not but they may be the same for the SC's.
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    They probably are NLA. The parts suppliers list two wipers, the '74/75 (exposed cap nut) and '76-89 version that is probably the wider 23mm width with plastic (vs. aluminum) cover. Porsche may not have actually changed to the wider version until the 1984 Carrera.
     
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    Yes, you are probably right. Even the current Porsche Pets can be incorrect to the original OEM parts. Some of the part number Porsche lists, while being proper for a replacement, may not be a match to what was supplied in the '70's. Thanks to the knowledgeable early 3.3 folks on this forum a lot of what is correct to the 930 is being preserved!
     
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    So as for wipers what should I have on my 79 from what you guys know?

    I have exposed Nuts on my Windshield wipers 79 #480 so semi early-mid build for the Model year.
     
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    Your 1979 930 #480 should have capped small 17mm width wipers front and rear like those pictured in thread #1312.
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    Then mine were changed somewhere down the line.

    no covers and the Nuts are exposed..
     
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    Even though the ones that you need are NLA, I don't think you'll have a hard time sourcing replacements. I believe the later mid-year and early SC 911's also used them.
     
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    VERY nice...silver always a top color 930! More photos please!! Also Frank, what is ownership like in Germany? How are 930's presently viewed by the car culture there? I love my life experience in Aleman!
     
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    +1 - beautiful Turbo.
     
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    Basically the car has a historic registration which makes it better to drive. Less tax and less insurance. There are not too many around. Everybody expects the car to increase in value so driving is not the first priority. People on the street recognize it as a Porsche. Driving my 1967 Mercedes Pagoda is a different story. It is well accepted as a historic car and people are very friendly seeing cars like this against all the modern "plastic" cars around.
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