Ferrari now is trying to manu the sound with trickery in the exhaust. You can't substitute the real thing and think the true enthusiast won't notice.
If Ferrari is so proud of 488 sound then they should put online video with sound comparison of 458 and 488, custom exhaust producers make video like this to show that their pipes are better than original from factory
While I get this, how is lamborghini getting away with it? They face the same regulations not so? They just launched a brand new car(huracan) and its a NA v10. So why did Ferrari need to switch to turbos so soon?
I suspect that Ferrari is making whole turbo thing for future proofing. Yes, 488 GTB will be tamed in terms of sound, and yes it will sell like hot cakes. So, where is future proofing in this? Well, imagine insane hype around 2019-2020 when Ferrari announces all-new model with screaming V8 coupled with hybrid, electric turbo or whatever will be relevant in that moment. This is kinda hard for customers to hear, but Ferrari is using its current uber-popularity to secure its own future. Additional positive thing for Ferrari is shared engine between Cali T & 488. I am sure that majority of profit from future sales will be invested in new technology that will be present on all-new V8 model. All in all, I am very pleased with Ferrari`s business plan if I am guessing these things right.
The only feasible hybrid models for the future are those with a V12 according to Ferrari. That's why the V8's are going Turbo.
but Lamborghini build prototype hybrid with V10, so maybe Huracan successor will be still NA http://vtec.carthrottle.com/image/1/1024/0/uploads/articles/lambo-542cf88772279.jpg
Great article Thanks for posting Here's an excerpt out it Even Ferrari Must Change With the Times Ferrari has a proud history of refusing to adopt any technology it deems unworthy. It has famously resisted electrically assisted power steeringwhich is virtually the rule for the industry, found in everything from econoboxes to Porsches $845,000 918 Spyderbecause it tends to compromise steering feel and connection to the road. Its the same story with all-wheel drive, which wasnt available until the Ferrari FF came along in 2011. (The FFs system is a bespoke setup that prioritizes lightness and feedback. It works pretty well, and the car feels like a Ferrari, all bloodlust and sex.) You can afford to be this picky when youre a tiny, luxury-oriented company with rabid customers and an R&D philosophy best described as Too much still isnt enough. But everything has limits, and all things must pass. And so Ferrari is adopting turbochargers even if company capos have said they dont like them. The driving force (no pun intended) is fuel economy, government mandates, image, and the fact that, from time to time, even small companies must grow. And so we have the 488 GTB, which will do zero to 62 mph in three seconds flat, hit twice that speed in 8.3 seconds and, should you have sufficient room, achieve a Vmax just north of 205 mph. It will do this while delivering a combined fuel economy in the ballpark of 20 mpg. (The exact figure is TBD, as the number Ferrari cites, 11.4 l/100 km, is based on European tests and standards.) And it is of course packed with the electronic wizardry and aerodynamic magic to ensure it handles as youd expect it to, meaning mere mortals will never see the edge of its performance envelope. Still, there is the matter of the twin turbochargers flanking the 3.9-liter 90-degree V8. It remains to be seen just how this will play outdespite all the uproar, few, if any, people outside of the company have actually driven the 488. Yet it is an interesting discussion, one that goes to straight to the role emotion and passion plays in how we view cars. And few marques inspire so much emotion and passion as Ferrari. Can you imagine people getting this worked up over, say, a Volkswagen? Even a Flawed Turbo Can Be Entertaining There is reason to be optimistic. Ferrari makes the most focused sports cars in the world, consistently doing more with less than any other automaker on earth. It has experience with turbos, even if the 288 and F40 were produced when engines were a lot easier to build and regulations much easier to meet. The companys razor-sharp, direct-injected, naturally aspirated V8s and V12s are among the best things ever created by man. When you drive one, you see the face of a certain kind of god. They are a benchmark, a reminder of whats possible given enough time, dedication and talent. The engine in the 458 is one of the finest ever assembled, and it absolutely defines that car. People criticize turbocharged engines, but even a flawed one can be entertainingone of the best things Ive ever driven was a Porsche 934 Le Mans car, and it was everything bad about turbochargers wrapped up in one bloodthirsty package. (Horrendous lag, a terrible exhaust note, throttle response that wanted you dead in a ditch. It was still great.) Ferraris are so intoxicating because they feel and sound and talk to you a certain way, and much of that is related to engine response and noise and RPMthe living, beating heart of a car, the feeling that its alive. Ferrari promises these things in the 488 GTB. Ive driven a 288 GTO, and it felt and sounded right, but the turbocharged engine was offset by the fact the car was such a glorious mind-****. It was perfectly calibrated, a monster capable of big, big speed without being the slightest bit intimidating. It was a joy to drive. It couldve been powered by an old chainsaw and I wouldve loved it. Perhaps thats the point. Ferrari got it right, when the conventional wisdom suggested it couldnt. What the haters dont realize is that, like any other technology, a turbo isnt good or bad in and of itself. Its all in how you use it.
Awesome car. I think Ferrari has done the very best they could given the regulations. That amount of power is mind-boggling. People have no idea how insane this car is going to be. All the references to the 308 are interesting and getting attention on that forum. Yes it's a turbo, but they are starting with a v8 that is going to rev high and sound great. Turbos will always muffle the exhaust somewhat, but this can definitely be mitigated in a number of ways. Besides, they didn't really have a choice when it came down to it. Now it's up to them to execute on the sound. Makes you wonder where hypercars can really go from here if supercars are becoming this fast.
They are also a part of VW. That is a shared motor. So I believe that affects the reporting and how they can offset the pollution vs all the tiny, efficient motors VW cranks out through various brands. But they are still headed the same way from what I understand, because the regulations continue to get more strict.
The car makes its maximum power at 8000 RPM, at which point the redline begins. The 458 made its power at its 9000 RMP redline.
Well, the cash hog was not the turbo V6, rather the ERS system. Anyway, the first round of F1 testing showed that Ferrari did a great job over the winter! Fingers crossed...
Like the car, don't like the car, love the car, hate the car....designs, requirements and desire are personal. If you want one, buy one. If you don't, don't buy one. It will be good for some and bad for others. I personally want one but I am waiting for the Spider this time around; thought I think the lines will be somewhat off considering the rear "hip" of the car. Happy to stay with the 458 Speciale for a coupe version; for now.
The Spider is coming soon...September 2015 introduction at car show in Frankfurt and early 2016 deliveries in Europe. BBR
I read somewhere that the reason lamborghini can use v10 n/a is because they sell way less cars than ferrari. Lamborghini sells about 2500 -- 3000 cars a year while ferrari sells about 7500 cars a year. Ferrari probably wouldn't have to go turbo if they sold less, but they don't.
maybe they should make two separate companies - "Ferrari" build V12 cars - "Scuderia Ferrari" build V8
