Taiwan plane crashes

Multiple Passengers Killed in TransAsia Airways Bridge Crash

 

Scary video.
Looks like engine trouble.

 

Scary indeed. I've read that 52 passengers out of 87 are dead.

Thoughts and prayers to their families.

 

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Doesn't look like the flaps are deployed, although I'm not sure if that'd be part of the engine out procedure or not.

 

+1 on this.

 

Left prop not turning? I understand a May Day was relayed seconds prior...lots of high rises in glide path/take off vector very fortunate this guy didn't get into one of those. Sorry for the PAX, crew and families

 

It amazes me that anyone survived.

 

RIP to all.


Did the wingtip slice thru top of the lorry 49-:50) ? Lots of dust/truck swerves...

 

Gear up, flaps possibly "1 notch", which makes me think it was during takoff. While it's hard to tell, it appears the left engine was feathered. Assuming the ATR has some sort of "auto feather" like the Brasilia does. Low overcast and rain. So, climbing out, enter clouds, engine failure, speed decays. Pilot descends to regain speed. Descends through clouds, see buildings and tries to pull up to clear them. Aircraft looks like it made a pull up into a stall, which dropped the left wing (into the dead engine) and rolled into the water. Elevator appears to be deflected upward.

Amazing people survived. I'm guessing if it wasn't for that last pull up, they wouldn't have.

Just my input based on the above video.

 

Pretty much a Vmc roll. How they got into that situation will be the interesting question. An ATR should be able to fly just fine on one engine.

 

Reading a commend by a claimed ATR pilot, he stated that on one engine they should of had not problem, coming around but that if the failed engine was still producing 10-15% torque the auto feather might not have kicked in and the huge amount of drag caused by that situation makes it very hard to climb-maintain-accelerate, hence the stall, especially if they pulled up to miss those buildings or power lines.

RIP to all involved.

 

Looks in the videos as if it barely missed a high-rise. I'm guessing a pullup to avoid the building resulted in a stall.

 

I was just going to say the same thing. Wings level trying to pull up over the building and a stall on the dead wing followed.

 

If you look at the video, I'm wondering if it actually clipped the building via the horizontal stab, causing the aircraft to begin its roll? There's a freeze frame prior to it hitting the taxi where the left horizontal stab, the tip appears to be gone prior to clipping the taxi/freeway.

 

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I am a car guy, not a pilot. Seems like those are pretty small engines for a pretty big plane. Could this be part of the problem, especially if you lost one of them? Could this plane take off with only one engine???
Jim

 

Yes, the ATR should be fine with an engine out. Not great, but good enough to come back and land. If that's the only problem, anyway.

 

Many people have no idea how much torque a gas turbine generates. The gas producer of a P&W or GE big fan engine isn't much bigger in diameter than a 55 gallon drum but it can rotate a fan that produces 100,000 lbs. of thrust. Those engines on the ATR are powerful enough by design. There were a bunch of things working on this incident.

 

Yep. The crash site is 3 miles from the end of the runway. They should have had more altitude than they did.

 

I'm not a pilot, but I thought the same thing. The roll seems to occur right after clearing the building.

Those pics seem to confirm that.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if they were overweight...

 

Three people in the cockpit to troubleshoot this.