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Official 308 GTB/GTS Market Thread

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  1. Brian A

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    I read the original post as a marketplace / collector question.

    I can’t see how there would be any more than a slight market differentiation between the two types of QVs. From a broad perspective, the differences between the 3x8 subspecies are trivial compared to, say, a 246 or 355.

    It comes down to minor stylistic preferences (black A pillar, air pump lump, etc.). The argument so far that rust proofing is a factor can be argued the other way too; there are / will be fewer ’83 survivors so “rarer” (and 1,300 K-jet basic QVs made vs 2,500 K-jet lambda QVs made).

    On the rarity question, the 3,800 QVs are a low number compared to carb cars or 328s. It will be interesting to see if the market differentiates the QV from the rest of the 3x8 line.
     
  2. 308 milano

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    I have to step back and agree with Bullfighter on this. My 84 Euro QV has a vin.# that falls squarely in the middle of 1985 production yet is titled as an 84. I also sought out an 84/85 QV and passed on quite a few 83 models even though NADA pricing shows everything equal through the 3 years. I guess the reasoning being I wanted the newest version of the 308 series.
     
  3. Crallscars

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    What's the serial number on your car, mine is an early 85, made in July of 84 Ser.# 52973


     
  4. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    Not too unusual.

    If your fusebox cover is held on by the same little plastic/metal tabs that the targa top cover uses, it is most likely an 85 model
     
  5. 308 milano

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    #54403
     
  6. Thomas Magnum

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    I've got you listed as an 85 on the Euro QV Registry. I think it's definitely an 85, but probably too many hoops to jump through to change it.
     
  7. 308 milano

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    Yes, it has the same tabs. But what I find unusual is that there are 70 cars before mine titled 85 yet mine he's an 84??
     
  8. 308 milano

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    Thanks Mark! Who knows, maybe has something to do with importation and titling
     
  9. Crallscars

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    My car is more of an 84 than yours and mine is an 85,

    With that number, somebody screwed up thinking it was an 84, Could it have been when it was a Euro that was imported?
     
  10. GordonC

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    Kim, was your Euro ever registered in Europe? My 84 Euro 52703 is registered as an 84, and was one of the last 84s produced... by North American model year standards. In many EU countries, car year is determined by the month/year when the vehicle is registered, so a QV produced later in 84, in the serial number range designated for 85 in the US, could have been sold in Fall 84 and registered in 1984, thus becoming a 1984 model when it was imported to the U.S.

    Just a theory on a possibility... ;)
     
  11. 308 milano

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    I think it boils down to someone screwing up at the DMV when it was first titled. ---I know that sounds crazy and the chances of happening are 1/1,000,000,000....says the clerk at the title and registration Bureau..
     
  12. 308 milano

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    My car was sold new in Saudi Arabia, I believe Jan.85 and spent a year there before being imported to the US. I have the original paperwork from the transaction. I'm at the Airport at the moment and will not be able to check for 2 weeks.
     
  13. dwhite

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    I own an 83 so I'm probably prejudice. Original owner had the air pump removed and lines plugged. He sold it to get a TR in 85 and I bought it from 2nd owner in 2001 and it never failed an NY emmission test when they were necessary and I have owned it since 2001.

    I would imagine most people buying a 308QV today are buying hoping it will be worth more when they sell. With that in mind, I would buy the car in the best overall condition, be it an 83, 84 or 85.

    Rust will not be a huge issue on a car which has been cared for - stored indoors. Otherwise no amount of whatever rustproofing you really believe was put on the 84 and 85 QVs will make much difference. Even people who washed their cars often and did not dry them as we all seem to do today, with blowers. will have the potential for rust. JMO, but I have seen rust on QVs from every year, they are all 30 years old.

    Find a nice QV and you will be very happy. Find a bad one and you will be miserable and poor.

    I don't believe one will be worth more than the others.
     
  14. sainthoo

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    Any advice on researching a reasonable price to ask for a Euro 308? Thought about Ferrari Market letter. Any other ideas?
     
  15. Oengus

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    Need some details, pics etc
     
  16. sainthoo

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    #366 sainthoo, Feb 3, 2015
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    I wasn't hoping to get a price from the board, but hoping to find a reliable source(s) to get to a fair price.

    If people want to take a crack at it.
    1985 Euro 308 GTS, red over tan. 24K miles. Repainted at some point in the past, seats dyed at some point in the past.
    Currently is a "hot rod" with a 328 block. Original motor rebuilt, ready to go back in if wanted. Original motor has approximately 1K less miles.
    Thread here: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/308-328/280414-308-328-conversion.html
     
  17. Bullfighter

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    What model year?

    FML is useless. Out of date for many models, including 308s.
     
  18. sainthoo

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    Forgot to put that in, fixed it above. 1985
     
  19. Brian Harper

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    As an owner of an '83 I have to believe that everything else being equal the '83 will be worth a little bit less than the '84/'85. BUT everything else won't be equal, and almost any other anomaly would overcome the difference. Despite being an '83, that car should be your first choice if it has any of: better paint, lower miles, better interior, cleaner, better cared for, faster windows, etc.

    But I think '83s will very slightly lag other QVs.
     
  20. Bullfighter

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    It's hard to get recent sales figures, but a prugna '84 pulled $71K in Arizona last month (with 11K miles).

    Hard to estimate for we Californians - Euro cars are very difficult to bring into California so many of us disregard them.
     
  21. Crallscars

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    I have considered selling/trading my red/tan 85GTS for a 85 GTS Prugna
     
  22. PV Dirk

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    Sorry if a repost. Not too many of these here. Rebuilt on the east coast, anyone know anything. It's not too far from me if there is any interest.

    1978 Ferrari 308 GTS

    Maybe someone can put the pictures and ad up?

    I have not seen this and don't know the seller.
     
  23. MrKazimi

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    I tried contacting the owner did not hear back from him.
    I wonder if some one can help.


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  24. 02fly

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    I'm in Medford if some one wants me to go take a look let me know and I'll make contact.
     
  25. finnerty

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    $40 seems like a helluva great deal to me !!!!
     

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