16M DISCUSSION THREAD

In addition to paintwork, looks like the Miami car was a rental as well:
Miami Exotic Car Rentals
Ferrari Rental In Miami | Miami Ferrari Rentals

I wonder if it is the car from the "Beiber" racing incident? In any case great looking car and probably a great considering there are hardly any of these cars on the market.

 

do yourselve(s) a favor and just assume you will lose money. You will. So what? If you want an investment car there are a ton of other options. 3x8s, air cooled Porsches etc.

A 16M is on my short list for my personal year end bonus to myself. I have NO expectations that it will be an appreciating asset. Zilch.

The 458s are about to take a mini-nose dive $$ as the replacement hits the market. Scuds and 16Ms will lose value as a result. 9/10 buyers with $200k + or - to blow on a used non warranty toy will buy a 458. That will put downward pricing pressure on Scuds and 16ms. How much? Who knows. Maybe very little.

I have cars that I bought to enjoy. I didn't buy them as investments. They increased in value and now it makes little sense to drive them (or maybe even keep them). Just recently I bought a decent 328 for a fun car. Nothing fancy. In less than 4 months its increased in value by 50%. Poor me, right? Well, if it increases much more I am going to sell it and buy something else that I can drive w/o fear of massive $$ loss.

Scuds and 16Ms are special cars. Love the fact that they are not coveted as collector cars.

 

Not sure I totally agree...I do believe that the 16M will be a collector car, but that will be several years from now.
I certainly don't look at the 16M (or any contemporary car) as an investment - I drive mine for pure pleasure. Just ticked over 16k miles.
However, it is interesting to see how limited production cars do in terms of value over time. I don't think the 458 replacement will effect the 16M market too much. Those that now own the 16M understand and appreciate the car, thus they hold onto the car, limiting the supply. Also it is the last of its breed of the fastest SCT with the F1 SF2 60 ms shifts - Oh what a feeling!




Sent from my 16M

 

Short answer is who knows how 16M's will do in years to come, can only say that in the last 4 years they have risen close to 30% in the UK. For a car that is simply wonderful to drive it's an added bonus. 458's prices long since went south of Scud/16M prices so I don't see any effect from the 458 replacement.

 

I drive my 16M almost daily. While it's only a 16 mile round-trip commute, it's all twisties and elevation changes so I really get to feel the car perform.

I am not worried about what will happen to the value of the car... mainly because I'm not sure I'll ever sell it

 

I am not worried about what will happen to the value of the car... mainly because I'm not sure I'll ever sell it [/QUOTE]

Agreed!

 

Agree. I don't plan on ever selling my 16M.

 

and now the ad shows it is still available.
What is with 16M ZFFKW66A690169187 ?
History of buyers backing out since it was for sale over a year ago

http://www.ferrarili.com/used/FERRARI/2009-FERRARI-F430+SCUDERIA+SPIDER+16M-cac23aa40a0a006438c7b98d957ea155.htm


Edit: link updated, sorry

 

Link seems dead and just did a search on there website. I don't see it...strange.

 

4 16M's sold in the UK in the last month went for £245k, £250k, £290k and £310k!!
None currently for sale.

 

On the dealers website, available and "Sale Pending" removed

Used 2009 FERRARI F430 SCUDERIA SPIDER 16M For Sale | Plainview, NYC, NY | VIN: ZFFKW66A690169187

 

Could it be a stale link maybe? If you don't go via the direct link and search for the car on their site or look under certified pre owned or just pre-owned it does not turn up.

http://www.ferrarili.com/all-inventory/index.htm?make=FERRARI&compositeType=certified&sortBy=year+asc&

http://www.ferrarili.com/all-inventory/index.htm?compositeType=used&make=FERRARI

 

Looks like the only 16m widely advertised just had a re-price from 265K to 300K.

Driving Emotions 2009 Ferrari F430 Scuderia Spider 16M - Driving Emotions - Palm Beach, FL | Exotic & Luxury Car Dealership Specializing in Aston Martin, Bentley, Bugatti, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Mercedes-Benz, Porsche, Rolls-Royce, RENNtech, and more.

 

I think your right, I had it bookmarked.
Sorry, seemed odd to me

 

Whoa! That's the highest priced 16M I have seen currently. I wonder if they'll get close to asking. Does seem high priced for 3k miles.
Yet supply seems low...any others for sale in the U.S.?
Are values going up?


Sent from my 16M

 

There was a 16m in Scottsdale that was listed at 295K. I think there was about 3 or 4 16Ms for sale when that car came and went.

 

Looks like maybe this car has reappeared on the market?Ferrari Rental In Miami | Miami Ferrari Rentals

Here is the new listing. Looks like the same car that was for sale here on fchat:
Cars for Sale: 2009 Ferrari F430 Scuderia Spider in SCOTTSDALE, AZ 85260: Convertible Details - 393578943 - AutoTrader.com

Here is the fchat classified thread:
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/ferraris/473984-2009-ferrari-16m-scuderia-spider.html

This car was also discussed earlier in this thread.

 

The red one with leather interior is VIN ZFFKW66A990169636
Cars for Sale: 2009 Ferrari F430 Scuderia Spider in SCOTTSDALE, AZ 85260: Convertible Details - 393578943 - AutoTrader.com

 

ZFFKW66A990169636 From one dealer to another with price upgrade:

2009 Ferrari F430 Scuderia Spider 16M
Mileage 13,764
MakeFerrari Interiornero ModelF430
Internet Special $274,750.00
Crave Luxury Auto
The Woodlands, TX
Crave Luxury Auto - 2009 Ferrari F430 Scuderia Spider 16M - The Woodlands , Texas


2009 F430 Scuderia Spider 16M Carbon Fiber Int Stripe Shields JBL Audio Red Calipers
Mileage: 13,762
Apr 04, 2015 , 1:43PM
Price: US $238,500.00
Seller: scottsdalesportscargroup
Scottsdale, Arizona, United States
Ferrari 430 2dr Convertible Scuderia Spider 16M | eBay



[Sold] 2009 - Ferrari 16M Scuderia Spider ZFFKW66A990169636 asking price $208k
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/ferraris/473984-2009-ferrari-16m-scuderia-spider.html

 

The Ferrari of Seattle car ZFFKW66A790169036 asking price was $239k has moved to another dealer:

Ferrari Los Angeles
Price: $299,000
Used 2009 Ferrari F430 Scuderia Spider
8,172 miles
Stock No. 169036
VIN ZFFKW66A790169036
Cars for Sale: 2009 Ferrari F430 Scuderia Spider in Van Nuys, CA 91406: Convertible Details - 397207675 - Autotrader

 

Is the red car with 13.7K the former Miami rental?

 

Yes

 

bubble

 

Why do you say? The cars are still under sticker... I would say great buy in the world of limited series Ferraris...

 

+1
Last time I checked--a bubble has to actually be at a high price! Hard to do that under MSRP.