Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

I am le 918, I am here for one lap and then forever gone.....

Les lamp nes march pas... Les 918, LOZ.

 

Go, Lmfao, go...

 

Glad you picked the right car for you.

But honestly your insiders tricked you or either you never actually drove the P1 to its limit or got some time understanding it.

I have both tested the 918 many times before I went and ordered mine.

They nothing alike the package the experience and the fun is different.

I ordered my 918 before any tests and ordered my P1 unseen once I got the idea I went and paid the deposit I knew they will come up with a game changer? Didn't even spoke to Mr.Ron at that stage.


for the past years I've drivin/owned all kind of cars from old exotics and all Bugatties moldes to laferrari..etc

The P1 is a game changer at least to me when it comes to driver car connection it's a pure driver car, ask anyone how fun it is, now if fun being the fastest then again a small amount of cash a fully race peperd car and it's heaven or take a ride on my P1 GTR.

does this make the 918 a less of a car, absolutely not it's a fantastic car with its own way of fun, engine sound,open top,luxury interior with some fine touches and more.

But to say someone picked the better car is nonsense because non did, we all picked what we liked.

I drove my Viper TA at track last week, did I thought once my P1 is better ? Not a second ...I bought them because I like them not to brag about them.

what I'm trying to say....its all good guys enjoy your cars.

Mbn

 

That'll be interesting to see.

 

Mark, numbers don't lie, people do. The in gear times doesn't match up with the 'torque fill' claim. There has to be a reason for the discrepancy. You might want to check with McLaren about their claim first.

The math is simplified, didn't even taken into account whether gas engine power is being siphoned for recharging duty on either car, but the principle is the same, by design, not all of the P1's rated output is available all the time, that's why it is so close to the 918 in performance when it was suppose to be a lot faster just based on paper specs alone.

As for the Ferrari V12s, I dearly loved them, they are one of the best gems ever made. The writing could be on the wall soon that they will be the last of it's kind. 10 years old or not, they are still a master piece of engineering, getting such a big engine to spin so fast. I actually just got back from my Ferrari dealership, bugging them to get me a LaFerrari.

Anyway, even with the LaFerrari, unlike McLaren, Ferrari never said anything about 'brand new' engine in their LaFerrari, and they didn't even try to hide that fact nor claim the LaFerrari is a bespoke ground up offering.

It could be McLaren's PR problem, that they try to bill the P1 as a bespoke car like the F1 when it is not. Granted a lot of the parts are modified, but they could have come clean or just do it like Ferrari did and don't claim anything. When car makers make a bold claim, a lot of people with trying hold them for it and if the claim doesn't hold up, then a lot of fire is gonna go that way.

 

I didn't get close to the limit on my P1 drive, there really isn't a good place to do it anywhere.

But I know how you owners feels about driving one, yes I can feel that 'feel' too inside. The car makes the right kind of noise inside that makes you feels faster than it is, it is definitely a more exciting setting than inside a 918. Actually I think 'engaging' is a better word to describe than 'exciting'.

 

Keep it coming LFMAO!
Please show us the telemetry that you are referring to?

Oh....you mean you actually don't access to telemetry data because you never seen the real copy?

Oh....you mean you inferred your "facts" from the bits and pieces of information provided by Treynor's posts on various forums?

Oh....so what do you know?

 

Ahem, you made a slight error. Let me correct it for you:
Laferrari>918>P1

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Corrected
Pete

 

IMO the last word will be on resale value * number of examples left

We'll see

 

PSK, you knocked it outta the park. But let me one up you

250 GTO > 250 Testa Rossa > 8C2900B Mille Miglia > Porsche 917 > McLaren F1 > Everything else..........

This could go on for ever. And please let it do so.

 

For me a "Pure driver car" has to be naturally-aspirated and weigh a lot less than a P1. Plus with all the modern technology and driving aids, personally, I wouldn't consider any of the 3 anything close to a pure driver's car.

 

I agree, it's the most desirable, the most 'exotic' as is typically defined. It is stunning in all the ways that matter. Only question is what color? I love the bare carbon that went to a Japanese owner. It is the epitome of 'now'. As for starting something new, a glimpse into future, not so much, but that was never its mission. Your #2 choice is number one for many and that's understandable for what it is, what it opens the door to. Both incredible machines 10000% worthy of being called hypercars.

 

do you have a link or photo of that bare carbon one you mentioned? i have yet to see it on the internet so far.

 

You're such a loser! To the point P1 owner telling you to STFU. Yikes. Trolling til the very end, til the very end. Truly a diehard. Survival ability of a cockroach.

Keep moving the goalposts Sparky. Keep feeding your own delusions. I'll keep feeding your troll needs as I feel like it.

It's really funny. None of these cars are race cars, yet all you can harp on is 'over many laps' BS. It's slower than 918 so you (and Ben, and ye faithful) now have to shift point of reference from tires (after making new claims that MPSC2>Trofeo's), to multi-lap numbers, to colors of the rainbow, to.... You know what's really relevant? That for a road car, P1's ultimate 'RACE" mode capabilities aren't accessible on the road. So you're left with even less performance (EVO saw this firsthand, ouch). Hot Lap is accessible/usable anywhere. That's funny. Here's the real kicker Sparky, 918 in Race Hybrid with Trofeo class rubber is quicker than P1 on those tires even with advantage of non road legal 'RACE' mode...the fancy 2.5inch ride height, 600kgs of air pressing down. You are out of excuses soon enough. Except you'll come up with something else. My goodness you are like a #$%$ that simply won't flush.

 

When porsche get the race tires are they going back to the ring to beat their old time or are they just going to let it sit? Could you tell me if you know?

 

Quoted from elsewhere:

 

we all have different way to see things, there is no one single problem to disagree the problem is if now I says you wrong because you just believe and enjoy something else.

if you believe an NA car with less weight is the driver car well be it your right on your own way.

Even so I personally can't see this happening this days from major factories due to emissions laws and safety standards and so on.

We all love NA engines but if Ferrari them self going turbo that's says a lot, someone here and I think Mark said, it could be for few years which i agree until battery technology gets better and we may see NA engines back again.

But for me engiens not a major thing an F40 came with a turbo engine and its one of my all favourites.

NA or not I enjoy both.

Untin the future we can agree and disagree knowing end of the day we all love cars but in different ways and nothing personal.

I respect civic owners as much as I respect 250 GTO owners and that's what makes us car enthusiast.

Mbn

 

@noone1,

You do realize that quote of yours said absolutely nothing concerning the original question?

Most people already know in the P1 the e-motor took the starter motor's spot and worked via the flywheel then through the gearbox. The rear motor of the 918 also work through the gearbox.

 

So decouple the 918's front motor and see what happens to 7th gear pulls. My guess is it slows down significantly.

You have to actually drive the car and look at what RPMs the turbos spool and what RPMs you're at in 7th gear to figure out what exactly is going on. Maybe you have to press the IPAS button when you're way out of whack in manual mode because the computer thinks, "Why is this idiot in manual mode going full throttle in 7th gear at 50mph?"

You can't come to the conclusion that you don't always have full power in the correct gear just because 7th gear pulls are slow.

 

LMFAO is just trolling you guys.

 

From what I know, definitelly, but only if someone beat their time this year or decide to announce something, lol.

Otherwise, they have no need to and better keep all the seconds gained for their next halo car campaign in 8-10 years time.

 

So do I my friend.

Looking forward to seeing you in Geneva.