Latest rumour is that he might even miss the australian GP (as per his own manager). 3 weeks recovery for such a mild incident and at best a mild concussion. I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories but this is not a simple concussion. The FIA inquest will tell us more I suppose.
Yeap. This is getting very messy now i think. But from the original article, Luis hardly quoted that he's going to miss Australia.
Read this last section days after the game: NFL's 2013 protocol for players with concussions - NFL.com Attention to this type of injury and long term effects of having been previously concussed has really been raised, I think a big issue is the risk of another crash and concussion before a complete recovery.
Mild and minor. Two words people keep using. ESPN F1 reported that the accident was 30g's. Good luck to Alonso. Concussions are scary and also may lead to future health problems.
How does a 30g impact compare to other impacts? A woodpecker survives about 1,000-1,200g. Bad example, even if you think Alonso is related to a woodpecker. For years the standard threshold for concussion in sports has been 70-75g. Some argue that this is too high and should be lowered to 50g, but 30g would be extremely low. Boxers regularly generate 50g with a punch and do not use helmets. Football players often experience hits that see 100g. Kubica's crash in Montreal exposed him to 75g. I suspect Kimi experienced well over 30g in his big crash last year. It is said that plopping down hard in an easy chair generates 10g. I fell on the ice last week and probably generated every bit of 15g. So in the grand scheme of things, when viewed in context, 30g should not be a big deal. If, as they have been insisting, Alonso was not unconscious and did not suffer any temporary amnesia, he doesn't even meet the threshold for level 1 concussions. You've seen pics of the accident. The car didn't even hit the wall hard enough to break the suspension. Alonso was wearing a helmet and a HANS device. The cockpit was surrounded with an energy absorbing collar. So, the question is, what else is wrong?
+1 I'm no expert or conspiracy theorist, but the plot thickens; Gotta love Uncle Ron speak... "He's devoid of all injuries"!.... Meantime, seems the whole team is in a world of hurt right now...... Cheers, Ian Alonso aiming to race in Melbourne - Pitpass.com
This sort of speculation is what I've missed least during my vacation from F1. Fascinating stuff but in the end we know nothing for sure.
This is not accurate information. 30 g's was NOT reported at the driver. Perhaps you could have gotten that sort of reading at an unsprung wheel reading during initial contact with the wall. Driver ear piece accelerometer recorded less that 15 g's. It is the G's acting on the driver and their duration that is concussive. The hit was not enough to do significant suspension damage and it took several seconds for the car to decelerate to a rest. While it has been reported that Alonso was unconscious briefly, the question is what rendered him unconscious. A three day hospital stay is inconsistent with the stated concussion injury, even factoring in observation. It is more consistent with observation for a recurring event such as seizure or other neurological issue such as epilepsy which can be caused by a blow to the head. Treatment by sedative track side also seems inconsistent unless that driver was in some state of agitation or distress. Being airlifted to hospital is also inconsistent with a minor crash. The first response to anyone who has a seizure of any kind is to prohibit their driving for a fairly significant period until the nature and treatment of a condition is identified. It has now been suggested that he might not drive in Australia in 2 weeks. Lastly, the fact that the FIA is investigating a simple testing crash seems to point to the possibility that they have concerns with either the drivers health or the car. McLaren has stated that there was no problem with the car. That means it was a driver error or problem, or the car behaved as designed but not as expected by the driver. This could indicate that there is something about the car that McLaren does not want to explain or something happened to the driver that they can't yet explain. Alonso not injured but in doubt for Australia ? Dennis The more McLaren says and doesn't say, the more suspicious this whole thing gets.... Fernando Alonso leaves hospital, stopped from testing ? F1 world wonders what really happened | James Allen on F1 ? The official James Allen website on F1 Unclear as to accuracy, but plausible reconstruction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qdi99SjYEhM http://i.imgur.com/RyMoKtQ.jpg I am hopeful that all of this speculation is wrong. If it is simply a minor testing crash, it has been really poorly handled from the public point of view.
+1 Have you looked at the "comments" following James Allens blog post linked above?..... Some are so funny (without meaning to be in some cases ) it's hysterical!..... The moon landings never happened, he pissed himself (hence causing an electrical short) when he saw the Ferrari behind and so on.... And I thought we had serious numbers of the TFHB here! We're mere amateurs! Cheers, Ian
comments such as, "‘Fernando, Felipe is stronger than you . . . Do you understand?’ posted in reply to a statement that Felipe did not even spend the night in the hospital after his accident in Canada.
Maybe Nando still on Ferrari's paycheck to sabotage McLaren and steal their secrets? And will do the same next year at Mercedes?
+1 FWIW, Kimi (from memory) either had 56 or 65G with his silverstone crash. If Ney's post is correct, that the earpiece didn't even trigger 15G, the hospital stay is ever more inconsistent with what we've been told (an concussion). I've had a number of them myself (including two full size bricks thrown at my head at separate occasions, one at the front and one from a sizable height traveling considerate distance before landing on top, and one pretty impressive crash) but never stayed in hospital for longer than 12 hours. I'd hazard a guess, but just those 3 concussions where all above 20G (though I can't prove it, I was unfortunate enough not to have accelerometers in my ears during any of those times). Whatever kept Alonso in hospital, I'm confident it wasn't a concussion.
To my knowledge they have not released the in ear g measurement but said the external suspension took 30g. The idea that no damage to the external means it was insignificant is a poor assumption. That energy went somewhere. Docs said he does not have a concussion per McLaren. McLaren confirmed he was KOed when he hit the wall. They also said his helmet hit both sides of the cockpit. Dennis said he had concussion symptoms at first but nothing showed on the scans. Dennis claims he initiated contact to have the FIA investigate. That is interesting. Dennis claimed that they have not spoken to Alonso about the accident. That seems weird to me. Dennis said that Button did look at the days and it looked odd to him. Dennis said this was because of the wind. Just come observations : )
GPGuide | News - Alonso not injured but in doubt for Australia - Dennis Head impact less than 15G Memory loss...not saying how much. Have not asked Fred yet...perhaps because he does not remember.
So, it looks like this is coming down to epileptic seizure, diabetic seizure, nasty hangnail, psychotic suicide attempt, or just another silly attempt on Alonso's part to make himself the center of attention.
The longer this goes on, the more sh!it McLaren is in.. They're definitely hiding something with all the flip flopping. Anyone read Ron Dennis' categorically interview? It was categorically moronic I'm sure Honda regrets joining F1 at this point, its all down hill from here.
