Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

OK Bud; Tough Guy!!

Gotcha/Thanks!

 

remember when folks were getting banned left and right for the smallest things? good to see things have relaxed a bit around here. "you are delusional idiot...I will have you" WTF? folks don't waste any time these days do they? 10 posts in and we've got major attitude. Like the infamous LMFAO, who came in super hot and heavy to 'educate' us poor dummies...

918 is simply the better car. higher quality, better built, higher performing. this is all without even getting into the 'value' discussion. but of course folks like whatever they like, based on subjective reasoning (looks and 'theatrics', etc) but lets cut the BS when it comes to performance and capabilities...

 

I already addressed this above.

However, what you may have meant was, "Nothing mentioned regarding additional laps", and/or Additional Laps and the state of battery charge.

LMAO and others, spent weeks discussing an issue that wasn't even mentioned in the article once. Not once.

No one cared, or thought it was relevant (except them-explaining another inconceivable loss in their minds-of course).

Some folks, wanted to re-invent magazine track testing procedures, outcomes it appeared, instead of just accepting them? SMH

Obviously, their criteria wasn't important; relevant. And probably not even true, or applicable.

 

Hey, you, oi, I am talking about you, yes you, pointy head... do you know FChat has many members who's first language is not English? Besides, no one likes a grammar Nazi on the intuhnet. as per LMFAO, MOST of his 'google' and twisted logic posts were sound? err...NO! thanks for playing though! NEXT:

 

FTFY

 

Trust me, that's one of LMAO many aliases.

Now, he's just taking out his frustration on us through Mugable so he can keep his LMAO alias when applicable.

Just like the LMAO personality, he/she loves attention.

The guys has issues man.

 

that is okay, but when someone accuses you of something, wrongly, he may be defaming you. Libel and defamation. Look those up. Do we have a case here? Yes. Not many people like being accused of something, especially wrongly. The person in the wrong should understand that his posts bear some liability and might entail legal action. Even on teh internets.

But, I am all for banter and etc. But if you accuse someone, back up your ****. Or else...

 

Oh My (hands on mouth, breathless)!

SMH like A Wet Dog Once Again.

Carry on.

 

Here's what happened. After Ben found out the P1 was no match for 918...shocked because he really thought even with himself driving, he'd lap quicker than 918, and when Randy couldn't do it either...well, that's when the goal posts shifted immediately. Ben maintains that he went into the track battle with a point to show 'multi-lap superiority...which is more complicated than it seems, with difference in tire wear patterns and such considerations. When P1 got destroyed, and then took a whole lot of effort to even reduce the gap down to .8 sec...errr...the 'reasons' got 'leaked' and 'debated' and spiraled into stinky doodoo on forums. He also gave zero effort in posting here, but rather very active in the apologists corner. oh well.

Here's the gist of the excuse by ye faithful: "P1 lost because it was a 'slow' track that favored 918. There weren't enough sections that P1 could exploit with its huge aero and top end power". Hmm. Or, as the article reveals: Mac could've engineered a car that had better mechanical grip, better traction exiting corners, better braking, etc, etc, etc. Things that would be of benefit on ANY race track. We can play that game all day. And of course the gem: "we were wrong to assume that Trofeo's are stickier than MPSC 2" said Ben. Absolutely reaching...

 

legal action? oh sit down and behave.

 

You can't blame him. How would you feel if somebody told you you are LMFAO?

 

Of course, it was all compensating. Trying to change the subject, and/or reality after another P1 loss.

Ironically, everything would have been forgotten, not discussed the past few weeks if it wasn't for some keeping the MT results in the spotlight. So now they're here (the article) with no break in between.

The sad part is; everything was in the P1's favor (active McLaren team present; frequent tire adjustments; Trofeo's; Standard, non Weissach 918, etc.), and it still by almost one second on a 2.2 mile track despite what was mentioned.

One can gather, the 918's just a better all around track car; mind you on the road, it's accoutrements/relative luxury, build quality, engine sound, and even economy.

 

LMAO.

But that's him. LOL

 

well sir, first of all, I would definitely be LMFAO for sure! ol' chap showed far reaching delusion and corner logic. absolutely bizarre tactics...even on the intuhnet!

 

You know you have reached the bottom when even Robert Mugabe dissociates himself from you.

 

This entire thread belongs on the first page of reddit.

That way the resident shrink could to work. He would be like a kid in a chocolate factory.

 

918 is better all around CAR period. It may lack the 'lightness in the seat of the pants' feeling or the 'theatre' (as EVO put it)...the huffing and puffing, of the P1, but as EVO also mentioned, 918 is of finer quality in what it IS and what it DOES. P1 is an absolutely wicked car no doubt, but that's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about thumbing the nose at the competition so early and so confidently. We're talking about the attitude from Mac and P1 owners, fanboys, ye faithful then and now. ****teth has hitteth the fanneth. Here's the thing that no one except those that closely follow Porsche saw coming: the Road Car engineered and hyped to have no equal on the track has been shaded ON THE TRACK in every meaningful H2H.

 

Lost on the day fair and square.

Lots of room for improvement on that lap looking at the trace and previous traces from Treynor though.

Interesting and useful comments about the P1 ABS, maybe a software/hardware update is in order.

 

absolutely! i have a buddy who's a psychologist, rather than a shrink, and i already get plenty of grief from him regarding my projected persona and antics here. but all in all, apparently i'm not THAT bad. he's read some of this thread in the past, and he thought it was hilarious.

 

and the part about 918 'would even be quicker yet with greater attention to tires, pressures, a more uptight psychotic approach'...well, that just tells you how much car 918 really is. just like the EVO test, there more left in reserve...

 

How much downforce do you think you get at 75mph?

Learn to read.

No mention of this when lapping the P1.

They're correct, the P1 is faster on the straights, indicating that the European press 918 that ran at Castelloli is a ringer.

As for cornering speeds, well P1 is faster in T4 and slower in T6 (4mph slower than other laps). That's just a driver struggling to get to grips with an extremely fast MR car with a limited number of laps. T3 - completely cocked up. T8 and T9, braking too early.

I think most honest people would be able to see that from the trace. Where am I? This is not a surprise, we knew the result a month ago, and I posted it.

 

OOOOOUCH!

 

Dude, it's OVER!!! STOP with the BS!!! Ringers? Incompetent driver? FFS!!!

 

so a standard 918 destroys P1 again ouch.

better braking, better traction, better cornering just lol at McLaren fail.

 

BTW - what a load of ****. Note the lightweight alloys on MT car representing half the 'massive' 2% weight saving of the Weissach Package (which is designed to separate stupid people from £100,000). Meanwhile Treynor's car has all the luxury options checked (ask him), so don't try spin this in exactly the opposite way to the way it was bull****ter. 918 was 1% up on WP weight, P1 was >2% up on lightest spec.