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  1. Dino2400

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    #1701 Dino2400, Jan 7, 2015
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    The books from the Cavalleria series would be great for photographic reference.
    Both have historic- and studio photography.
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  2. tongascrew

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    Always go for the original, hard back or soft back.You need to search around for a reasonable price. A well used original first edition is always better than any later paperback edition.The exception to the rule is when a autograph is involved by someone important to the book,not necessarily the author. tongascrew
     
  3. tongascrew

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    Go into Google and bring up the web site for each sn. and or go to the Barchetta page for each car. Each of these sites will then lead you to more. tongascrew
     
  4. Aardy

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  5. piloti

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    Have just received another new book "Grand Prix Ferrari" by (the late) Anthony Pritchard. It covers the years 1948 - 1980 and although the title indicates that this is about Grand Prix cars it also includes F2 and the Monzanapolis cars. Even some of the more obscure early privately owned cars are included.
    Initial impressions are good. The 410 pages are filled with informative comments and some great photos, especially the early colour (pre 1960s), which is still hard to find. Anthony has done a comprehensive job here. There are full race results, including chassis numbers where known, although (and this is personal) I don't like the way the tables are laid out.
    My other gripe is the number of photo caption errors. I've not even read it thoroughly but I've found five! already.
    If you are interested in Ferrari's early grand prix history you will find this really interesting. You'll need to be quick as the publisher has only printed 1500 copies.
    Nathan
     
  6. Gatorrari

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    I have this book on order here in the States and hopefully it will in my hands before too much longer. I believe this is a much-expanded edition of a book by the same name that the late Mr. Pritchard did back in 1974.

    He also did a companion volume called "Grand Prix Ford", about the Cosworth DFV and the cars that it powered, which is supposed to be available later in the year.
     
  7. Martin308GTB

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    Thank you Nathan for this,
    I have the book since the day it was available in Germany.
    I haven't finished reading yet, but find it great so far.
    I have also discovered some errors, but not so many like you found :)

    Best Regards from Germany

    Martin
     
  8. Jack-the-lad

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    I got tired of waiting for Amazon so I ordered it from England...same price, free shipping and I got it about a month ago.
     
  9. Lussolover

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    Dino2400- Found the 250gt for a nice price. Finally received it and so far it's marvelous!
     
  10. scuderia92

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  11. piloti

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    Have now had time to browse this book. I quite like it but I can't believe how many errors there are in it. I've found the following just casually reading it through.
    p.31 table - No. of cylinders is wrong
    p.72 bottom photo - caption is wrong
    p.145 - right photo - caption is wrong
    p.202 - photo - caption is wrong - #24 is Cliff Allison
    p.231 - photo - refers to Guy Mairesse - s/be Willy Mairesse
    p.259 - photo - following car is not Jim Clark
    p.272 - top photo - 1967 not 1966
    p.273 - halfway down text - say lap in 1min 38.3 - s/be 1min 28.3
    p.284 - photo - not Bell - this is Amon
    p.298 - photo - caption is wrong
    p.343 - cutaway is 1975 312T not 1974 312B3
    p.346 - photo - is 1972 not 1974
    I haven't read the book yet, just scanned through it a couple of times, but
    poor old Tony would be turning in his grave if he knew how bad it was.
    If you spot any errors not listed here please post so we can all benefit. Thanks.
    Nathan
     
  12. Dino2400

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    Great! Enjoy your book!

    Regards,
    Maarten
     
  13. Dino2400

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    #1713 Dino2400, Mar 5, 2015
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    Unfortunately the same thing goes for his book "The road Ferrari's"... Also many mistakes and wrong captions placed by the pictures.
    Just to point out a few of them:

    Page 9 , Tipo 851 written instead of Tip 815
    Page 19, Caption states 308 production-line with two 288GTO's in foreground and some 308's hardly visible in the background...
    Page255, Caption says 308 but is in fact a 328

    And the best i've found is on page 305, Caption says Mondial production-line but photo shows 512BB :( I sure wished my Mondial looked like that! ;)

    I'm pretty sure experts like yourself can pick out many more.
    Mainly because of these mistakes i haven't bought the Pritchard Grand Prix book.

    BTW, i often refer to the road Ferrari's book as the "budget" Salesdrive from Maranello :)
    This because of the many reproductions of Brochures in this book from a certain UK-collector.

    Maarten
     
  14. tongascrew

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    The early post war research/historian/authors didn't have then what we have now for research sources.A few like Graham Gauld, Marcel Massini, Hans Tanner,Jess Pourret and others actually went to Maranello back in the days when the "back rooms" were open and available. Years later those doors closed and the internet and other researchers took over.In many ways these folks improved and expanded on the previous research.So much about these early years'The Golden Years 1946 -1966" came outside of Maranello by owners, competition ecuries.restoration shops, collectors etc.Marcel Massini is the protagonist of those who have bridged this gap and his research on individual Ferrari s/ns is without equal. Between the newer researchers,historians and authors and of course many of the contributors to FerrariChat as well as other important web sites, vast amounts of new and correcting data has become available. It's what keeps us coming back for more. Thanks goes to all who contribute. tongascrew
     
  15. Jack-the-lad

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  16. 375+

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    I've read it, it is rife with inaccuracies.
     
  17. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Can you give us some citations as Nathan and Maarten did?

    Thanks.
     
  18. piloti

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    That might be, but there are some great early photos in it which on their own are worth the price - and I had to pay extra to ship it to England. Still worth the money IMHO.
    Nathan
     
  19. Jack-the-lad

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    Thanks for your comments, Nathan. The author lives about an hour's drive from me, so I intend to meet him soon.

    Jack
     
  20. tongascrew

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    1] Runways & Racers, Sports car races held on military airfields in America 1952-1954; by Terry O,Neil; Veloce Publishing 5/2011 208 pages Limited interest;Gives good background to how these events came to being.Also stats on quite profitable results which went to the USAF base housing fund. Attendance between 40K-100K.Not all events included.Result tables for all classes.All Ferraris listed with s/n of each car.Nice for the statistician.Lots of nice period photos:2] "The Ferrari 250GT Story, Tour de France" by John Starkey, Foulis Pub. 1986, 134 pages.A must have about the beginnings and basics of these very special cars.Of particular interest and unique to this book is the interview with Oliver Gendebien who scored the most impressive successes with the car and owned one.Also Chapter 5 describes in detail the restoration process by the author of 0911.A good lesson for anyone contemplating the restoration of an aging Ferrari. Enjoy. tongascrew
     
  21. Blanco-TdF

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    With apologies to Paul Simon:
    No I would not give you false hope
    On this [Ides of March] day
    But the [Inside Track biography]
    Is only a motion away.

    I will elaborate soon.
     
  22. trashidelek!

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    Please do tell. I assume that this means the book will be published?
     
  23. tongascrew

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    These three are best selected for the relative new comer to the world of Ferrari as a way to help get the started.#1 'Ferrari Design, the definitive study" by Glen Smale;2010,; Haynes North America;large format;hard back;272 pages; starts with the AAC 815 and goes up to the modern 612 machines; except for a few early 166,212,340 machines;it exclusively covers the road cars; Lots of nice color photographs and brief text of each model's stats. A good general starter.#2"Ferrari Sports Cars & Prototypes" by Giulio Schmidt:93 pages;Nada Pub;soft back;large format;starts with 166,212,340 machines and goes up to 1986 F40 competition cars;good color modern photographs; basic stats and race histories.#3"Legendary 250" Ferrari SpA pub;Galleria Ferrari Collection;Hard back;large format;92 unnumbered pages;excellent period B&W and color period photograph;'English/Italian';brief stats and history of each model. Numbers #1 & #3 would make a nice starter kit. tongascrew
     
  24. tongascrew

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    Just received this; Seems very complete with photographs and drawings. Is available on the Ferrati collectables web site. Sent to me by Bill Locke, P O Box 459, Huntersville NC 28070 tongascrew
     
  25. jm2

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    are those the initial B&W newsletters sent out to members?
    the full color issues started with #33
     

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