15W50 or 5W50? | FerrariChat

15W50 or 5W50?

Discussion in '308/328' started by Dr Tommy Cosgrove, Apr 6, 2015.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    May 4, 2001
    Messages:
    36,405
    Location:
    Birmingham, AL
    Full Name:
    Tommy
    Since 10W50 just isn't really available.

    I have pretty much always used 15W50 but don't we at least, theoretically, want that first number as close to zero as possible? Correct or no?
     
  2. sfrazier

    sfrazier Karting Silver Subscribed

    Joined:
    May 18, 2004
    Messages:
    51
    Location:
    Concord, CA
    Full Name:
    SeanF
    Fernando @ Competizione recommended i use Motul 6100 15w50 in my 308.

    thx.

    - sean
     
  3. miketuason

    miketuason F1 World Champ Owner Silver Subscribed

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2006
    Messages:
    15,806
    Location:
    Cerritos, CA.
    Full Name:
    Mike
    I use 5w50 Redline for years and works great for my car.
     
  4. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2011
    Messages:
    12,083
    Location:
    FRANCE
    Wow! A thread about engine oil...great!
    Shell 5w40 in both 328; no leaks, very satisfied so far.
    Rgds
     
  5. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    May 4, 2001
    Messages:
    36,405
    Location:
    Birmingham, AL
    Full Name:
    Tommy
    I know...

    I thought about not even asking
     
  6. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    May 4, 2001
    Messages:
    36,405
    Location:
    Birmingham, AL
    Full Name:
    Tommy
    I may regret this
     
  7. dinogt4guy

    dinogt4guy F1 Rookie

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2004
    Messages:
    3,411
    Location:
    Hewitt, Tx.
    Full Name:
    Kurtis Fordice
    Castrol gtx 20/50 in the Dino.
     
  8. furmano

    furmano Three Time F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2004
    Messages:
    32,215
    Location:
    Colorado
    Full Name:
    Furman
    The first number is the cold viscosity. I would think in AL, really cold starts and initial cold operation would't really be an issue; at least between the months of March and November.

    I don't have the manual in front of me and I can't remember what the original spec was, and I realize oil has evolved since the manual was written but I thought 15W40 was the original oil spec so if that's the case 15W50 would work fine. I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong on that.

    -F
     
  9. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    May 4, 2001
    Messages:
    36,405
    Location:
    Birmingham, AL
    Full Name:
    Tommy
    10W50 is called for in the manual.

    Was 5W or 0W even available in 1983?

    I'll just stick with what I have been doing and save the 5W for my daily drivers in the winter.
     
  10. furmano

    furmano Three Time F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2004
    Messages:
    32,215
    Location:
    Colorado
    Full Name:
    Furman
    OK thanks. I apologize for giving out inaccurate info.

    -F
     
  11. electrogunner

    electrogunner Formula Junior

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2013
    Messages:
    322
    Location:
    Amish country PA
    Full Name:
    Joe
    I just changed mine with the valvoline VR1. 20w50.

    Just my 2¢
    Change please:eek:
     
  12. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    May 4, 2001
    Messages:
    36,405
    Location:
    Birmingham, AL
    Full Name:
    Tommy
    One day ban :)
     
  13. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    79,368
    Location:
    Houston, Texas
    Full Name:
    Bubba
    You are on it, Dr. Tommy.

    IMO our older engines do benefit from the 50W and my oil pressure drops on the lower weights.

    The first number is actually "flowabiity" and the lower the better, so the 5-50W would be the modern equivalent. Of course in Texas in the summer I can dump Royal Purple 20-50W in everything and go for it!

    I think Mobile 1 even goes to a 0-50W now...

    Now, a newer engine, even a 328, this is void advice.
    Go with your manual, and maybe adjust for the number of miles on your engine..

    YMMV
     
  14. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    79,368
    Location:
    Houston, Texas
    Full Name:
    Bubba
    10-50W has been the spec since 1976
    But it says AGIP brand!!
     
  15. waymar

    waymar Formula 3

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2008
    Messages:
    1,354
    Location:
    Northeast, PA - USA
    Full Name:
    Wayne Martin
    I use Valvoline VR1 20-50
     
  16. Elentinos

    Elentinos Formula Junior

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2011
    Messages:
    296
    Location:
    Netherlands
    Full Name:
    Erwin
    Ha! Love to see old times threads come alive! My 328 gets 10W60 Shell Helix racing full synthetic. Because times are changing, and dino oil isn't that good anymore...
     
  17. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    79,368
    Location:
    Houston, Texas
    Full Name:
    Bubba
    ..and your oil pressure is pretty good with that I would think?

    Absoultely agree on the modern molecules!!
     
  18. scowman

    scowman F1 Rookie

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2014
    Messages:
    2,550
    Location:
    Scottsdale AZ
    Full Name:
    Stu Boogie
    +1 and pretty much in stock any auto zone.
     
  19. vaccarella

    vaccarella Formula 3

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2011
    Messages:
    2,291
    Full Name:
    Paul
    And in the UK, too +1
     
  20. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    May 4, 2001
    Messages:
    36,405
    Location:
    Birmingham, AL
    Full Name:
    Tommy
    Isn't 60 getting a little too thick?
     
  21. furmano

    furmano Three Time F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2004
    Messages:
    32,215
    Location:
    Colorado
    Full Name:
    Furman
    I'm trying to preempt a big time smack down from Brian. :(

    -F
     
  22. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    79,368
    Location:
    Houston, Texas
    Full Name:
    Bubba
    That's the out of the bottle number...

    With an older car esp. carburated, the blow by at the rings starts diluting it almost immediately.

    You know, in the real world...where they actually run..:D
     
  23. ModenaInv

    ModenaInv Karting Silver Subscribed

    Joined:
    May 10, 2014
    Messages:
    156
    Location:
    South West Michigan
    Full Name:
    Dave
    I also use this oil. It was recommended to me for its higher level of zinc.
     
  24. miketuason

    miketuason F1 World Champ Owner Silver Subscribed

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2006
    Messages:
    15,806
    Location:
    Cerritos, CA.
    Full Name:
    Mike
    Here's the spec:

    Fully-synthetic ester formula for passenger cars, light trucks, performance vehicles and marine applications
    Excellent wear protection and friction reduction across a wide range of operating conditions
    High detergency allows extended drain intervals and provides increased cleanliness
    Improved fuel economy and ring seal for more power
    Superior high temperature stability and oxidation resistance increases lubrication of hot metal compared to other synthetics
    High natural viscosity index (VI) provides thicker oil film in bearings and cams
    Less evaporation than other synthetics for improved efficiency and ring seal
    All products are completely compatible with other conventional and synthetic motor oils,
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  25. tatcat

    tatcat F1 World Champ Owner Silver Subscribed

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2001
    Messages:
    11,013
    Location:
    panama city beach FL
    Full Name:
    rick c
    castrol 20/50.
     

Share This Page