I had the previous model QP. It was a great car for what it was. Just for my tastes, it was too big, too heavy, and too slow. I traded it for the FF.
I'm starting to think the same thing. I know I will not be able to replace the combination of performance and usefulness by any other car.
not to turn this into a DD recommendation thread but atm i'm running a new M5 as a DD (the attention of the 458 as a introvert makes it unsuitable for me) love how discrete it is and despite the speaker exhaust note being gimmicky the actual engine is more than acceptable. would never say it was too slow either.
Its very hard to tell you, hey try again with new 300k car and see if it is reliable this time. If you are really blown away with FF capabilities maybe you could give one more chance to other FF, since there are number of owners with zero FF issues. In any other case, go after German alternatives...
Crashed and survived with my 6 month pregnant wife. No scratch what so ever and no issue with baby and mother too. Very very safe car. I believe in ferrari god. Lol
FF or any other dual clutch gear box fails sometime. Mine did and it was fixed right but took some time. My 2014 gt3 pdks failed too. They are shipping the transmission right now. Funny ferrari took less than a month to figure out nd shiped parts to repair. Porsche is taking 3weeks just to figure out what to do. And now we are talking 2 months for the whole process and i am not sure i will keep the car after this. Lost interest. What is point of track car missing the best track season...
I am struggling with that. Taking a $300,000 risk when my experience tells me not to is tough. On the other hand, I love the way the FF drives and am convinced I will not be able to replace its combination of performance and usefulness in my quest for more reliability. I agree that if I change, I will be concentrating on German alternatives.
If my situation involved only one issue, I would be less troubled. But it has been multiple issues. Hearing about your GT3 does clarify that this does not only happen with Ferraris or Italian cars.
You want to be a rock star at your local dealer? Buy a new FF. They will love you forever, and you can take your pick at any of the specialty cars coming out. The flip side is, the FF is a phenomenal car! Once you get over the awkward styling of the rear, it's amazing to drive. I have a two friends who are owners, both of which have bought second FF's and they both put tons of miles on them.
I have close to 15000 km on my FF now. You'll see in my thread I received it in January. So far we have fixed the lighting in the tach that had failed. That took 10 days as the tach had to go to Italy (from Germany). I left the car there for 3 weeks while we were on vacation. While it was there I had clear foil and a front end repaint done as winter and the autobahn was not friendly to the car. No major inconvenience other than transportation Since we were away. The car went to the dealer for a week because the head unit and passenger display went dark. They needed it only for one day as the solution was found quickly. My schedule had me unable to pick it up. So in 3 months the car has been in for just under 4 weeks and I've still driven 15000 km. ideal? No...... But I've enjoyed every bit of it and I have hopes that the car will not see the dealer until the next service is needed. I spent a lot of time figuring out which car to get and the FF was the only one to deliver the excitement out of a DD. On a fun favor I'd rather drive my 458 but the FF is all alone in the daily driver category vs all the Germans especially and as you can see by my usage it's a DD to say the least!!
Wow, you seriously drive your FF. It sounds like you have had some bad fortune, but only over a period of a few months. Hopefully no more time in the shop the rest of this year. I agree, no other daily driver can give the same level of excitement.
Yes, I do use the car a lot. Rain, snow, sun I take it to the office, job sites, kid's school etc. For me the bigger frustration is where I have to take it for service. In all they could have knocked out the issues in 11 or 12 days but my schedule has had it there for twice that time or more I can say with humor that the monthly fuel bill in the FF would more than pay for any of the cars that people mention as an alternative here. With that said, it's hard to compare them. My search seemed to go from the Germans all the way to the FF in one big step. My Audi dealer gave me an S8 to try and sway me away from the FF before my purchase but the excitement just wasn't there. To me it seems like there is a big gap. I do think my car is solid, just had a few quirks to iron out and I'm expecting some stress free usage here. We will see!!!! I'd say keep an eye out for the changes coming up and maybe give it another shot. I'm not sure what I'd be able to 'downgrade' to after the FF. I think all would pale in comparison. I was actually thinking about this the other day and figured maybe an Audi a1 would be the easiest
I don't have an FF but have owned other F cars. Here's my solution: insist on a loaner car EVERY time you bring in your F car for repairs or service. I find that way you always have a daily driver to use, while it provides incentive for the dealer and manufacturer to get your own car turned around as quickly as possible. Try it...
I drive my 2014 FF every day as my DD. In a year I have put 8k miles on it. I live close to my office so it is mostly side streets but I use it to go to our vacation house which is about 90 miles of highway driving. I absolutely love the car. I did have an issue with the transmission that took it out of service for over three weeks. Since getting it back no issues. Like many of us here I have had several (many) high end cars over the years but I feel like I have a "relationship" with this car..lol I also have an F12 and while the driving experience is very different, I just don't use it that much because of how good the FF is.
This is good to hear. It sounds like you use yours much like I do - mostly short city trips with an occasional longer highway trip. It's good to hear that, with one exception, yours has been reliable for the same type of driving I do. I can deal with occasional usage outage. My experience has been frequent issues. It is starting to sound like my experience is unusual.
I had 2012 FF and sold after 2.5 years with less than 3,000 miles. I split daily driving at the time between 2010 MB S550 4MATIC and FF. My FF was okay and I could have kept it. It was paid off at time of acquisition, had the year 4/5 power maintenance (so no unexpected expenditures in future). It was my first Ferrari and I'd paid high price for ownership. Hated to lose at trade-in so held on for two years while waiting for new AMG M-B to be released. However it had 11 non-scheduled visits to dealer for trivial stuff. Just annoying with tie to battery tender when other vehicles (M-B) are rock solid without it. Depends on your tolerance for trivial stuff. Most vehicles that I owned had 1-2 items corrected in first few months, and then were zero defects. FF never went more than 30-45 days without some idiot light on dash. Leave it off battery tender for a week even if running daily and some drama was guaranteed (that's BS in my opinion). Bought a 2015 MB S63 AMG coupe (4MATIC) which is very comfortable and you get technology of a Mercedes (vs Ferrari's attempt). Within 10 days turned-in the FF but I've got a Cali-T ordered. Wife liked 2011 Maserati GTC (traded for FF) so I'm hoping that she'll like the Cali-T when it arrives in late summer.
I have no experience with that car but I did chuckle when I saw one on a flatbed today as I had seen this thread a couple days ago.
Alternative would be the Panamera TT, with an extra $4k on an exhaust for great sound. Looks are similarly acquired taste as the FF, both quick enough. Porsche is a bit better in quality and costs. It's no Ferrari exotic of course. Have been meaning to test an FF at my dealer.
