The Swiss Thread

Two questions for my Swiss friends: what would be the correct price for a 360 CS or F430 Scuderia here in Switzerland?

 

She looks great!

Gr. Martin

 

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At this moment there's only one CS at CHF 189K, whereas there are 14 scuds ranging from CHF 132K to 189K.

It's more difficult to price the CS correctly as its market is very thin at the moment. There are way more scuds for sale.

 

Hi everyone, and thanks Markus for sending me a link to this thread.

A regular meet up and drive would be very splendid, albeit I'm away travelling until August with my only possibility of being back in Zurich being late May around the long weekend of 23/24. It would be great to get together then (though I probably shouldn't commit until nearer the time), and I know a few guys who would probably be keen to join (Markus, Antonio - you know the team).

As for CS and Scuderia prices... I've been watching for a while and think that what you see listed for Scuderias are currently fairly stable prices. Stradales however have jumped from ca. 125k CHF for a clean 25,000km car last summer/autumn to 150-190k this year and the adverts have not been up for more than a couple of weeks. Each one gets prices higher than the last. In fact, a couple of months ago there was a red with full black interior car up for a while at around 125k at one non-franchised dealer, the ad disappeared and within days what appeared to be the same car was on for around 170k. I find increases like that a bit ridiculous really, but am still regretting not moving faster for a really clean 35000km CS last summer I could have got for 100k... Most thrilling car ever and a bargain at that price! I was up soon after at a main dealer in Frankfurt for 136k Euros.

Hope to meet up soon guys. And yellow is brilliant on a Speciale - top choice!

 

Thank you chaps.

One could make the same arguments for 328s... for ages the same ones would not sell and then in a matter of weeks... they all disappeared!

The 550 is another interesting case: I understand that Niky Hasler sold a perfect blue/tan 550 with 8500km for CHF 125,000. However, on autoscout.ch, as we speak, there are still few interesting low mileage 550s in apparently good conditions and the prices are still in the 80s/90s. However, if you look at autoscout in the whole Europe, there are only 16 550s all with high mileage and prices are all 99k to 140k euro!

 

It is also worth while to check auto.de They have cars from all over the world, but mostly located in Germany. The cheapest ones seem to be in Russia at the moment if you want to risk it...

Found only one CS on there now (in Hannover) for EUR 250.000.- with 37.861 km on the clock.

 

Looks like mobile.de has a few more, mainly in France, starting around 170k euro. I struggle to understand the restraint if some keeping the miles so low on some of these cars... the CS begs to be driven!

As for the 328s vanishing last autumn... one of the guys at Pierre Sudan told me someone came over from Germany and just bought them all up. Make of that what you will with the subsequent rapid increase in euro prices. Not sure about 550s... they are getting hyped as 'investable' at the moment so they will probably follow suit. Anyway, ugly subject. Let's go spend some time on the passes (I highly recommend the Sustenpass on a quiet weekday)! Maybe get a GT3 instead...

 

GT3 not my cup of tea. But no problem for now.

 

Hey Markus!

Great to hear from you too.

All good here car has left hibernation so we are back on track (; I am totally down on meeting once a month then finding some nice roads to drive! The weekend of the 26th I should be here (business trip tbc) but if not the one after? Would that work for everyone?

100% down for a summer trip just not sure if I want to see a speciale live as I might get myself into financial complications after.

Take care
Antonio

 

Susten-Grimsel-Furka-Gotthard in June... meeting in Wassen....who joins?

Wer isch debii?? Chi viene?

 

Good idea ! I might join with the 355 or the 550 depending on mood and weather. Week day ? Or early start on a week-end to avoid the circus ?

IMHO, the best drives are earlier in the season, 2nd half of May, right when the passes open.

There is a nice spot for pictures on the Tremola. Would not look bad with a few Ferraris lined up ...
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I think would be best for all saturday or sunday we can arrange date all together, meeting point Wassen around 9 o'clock for all...lunch time on Grimsel Pass and then afternoon on Furka and Gotthard .

 

I know a great parking spot in the middle of Zurich, right by the lake! It will be near empty on a Saturday or Sunday morning. It is on Mythenquai, opposite SwissRe/Zurich Insurance (the "Insurance mile"), by Hafen Enge. It even has a "kiosk" that sells coffie and gipfeli

 

That’s a great idea, William.

So let’s meet up Sunday, May 3rd at 10.30 AM at the parking spot right by the lake opposite Swiss Re (Mythenquai 50/60) in Zurich (see pics below).

Let’s meet and talk about our cars and then go for a ride together. Then we can also plan for a longer tour to meet F430giallomodena and others.

Who is in? Please send me a PM with your e-mail address and cell phone number.

I hope to see many of us there!

Markus
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Hopefully I can join in the morning. I will PM you my number Markus.

 

Hi Markus

For me it's probably too early to take part. Wish all a nice trip!

By the way: Be aware of the massive road construction work around the Central in the next months if you'll drive through Zurich.

Greets
Simon

 

Hi Simon

Thanks for the hint about the road construction work around the Central. We will avoid that area.

Would you like to join anyway even without your car to meet all us guys? I would be happy to have you on the passenger seat when we go for a drive (if you sit in such a slow car that I have compared to your Speciale).

Markus

 

Hey, I already got some feedback from you guys! Thank you!

So the actual situation looks as following (see pic below).

Any more people interested to meet us on May, 3rd at 10.30 AM at Mythenquai in Zurich? Just send me a PM with your mobile number and e-mail address (I will not post any phone number nor e-mail address nor full name on F-Chat or elsewhere on the public).

Markus
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Hello everybody.

Unfortunately I cannot join you on Sunday. I have an invitation which I have to attend.

My car hasn't arrived yet but I already changed my license plate, which is of course completely unnecessary and unreasonable, but aren't we all a little bit lunatic?

I wish you a nice trip and I hope to see some pictures here...

Greets
Simon
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Markus, you meet and......? are you going for a ride all together or it's just a meet in a Parkplatz and cars left stuck there? cause I could come too but my car already sits in the garage during the week, she needs to have her legs streched in the week-ends...

 

We are moving to Switzerland and taking our 458 Speciale Aperta with us. We would love to join on some of the tours you organise here.

Unfortunately The first weekend of May we can't make it but the next one after that would really be interesting.

I live in The Canton of Vaud but driving up to the Zurich area on a Sunday morning wouldn't be a problem.

 

Simon – Too bad you cannot attend our first meet.
Cool number plate. But it says 2458 so you need two Speciales

Markus

 

Robin – Would be great to have you with us when we meet next time.
Hope to see you soon.

Markus

 

F430giallomodena – Would be great if you would join us!!

Of course we will do a tour.

The agenda could look like this:
10.30 Arrival and talk about cars with coffee from the kiosk
12.00 Drive over some “small” passes (Albis, Buchenegg, Sattel)
15.00 Coffee and cake. Date for next meet up, next tour etc.

Would this be OK for you to come to us from Ticino?
Hope to see you soon.

Markus

PS: Here is the actual status
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Pour information : les 40 ans de la 308 au Vigeant , lors du traditionnel "sport & collection" et "500 Ferrari contre le cancer", les 4, 5, 6, 7 juin 2015 !

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/france/464948-40-ans-de-la-308-a.html